larry Posted January 5, 2007 Share #41 Â Posted January 5, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I managed to induce one of these bands, but only by shooting under torturous low-light conditions. I'm not totally dismissing the need to fix this problem, however the only thing it proved to me is that if you go looking for trouble, you'll find it. Shooting with my Canon 10D at the same time rendered useless results. Â Larry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Hi larry, Take a look here New Band is Firmware Bug. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
canlogic Posted January 5, 2007 Share #42 Â Posted January 5, 2007 I have found if I take a picture of my dogs ass at 2500 iso and push it 4 stops with a slight bit of back focus I can see an image of the baby Jesus when I view it at 400% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_l Posted January 5, 2007 Share #43 Â Posted January 5, 2007 Sean- Â Although the M8 is the prime concern now, Mark Norton and I have been worried about the new Tri-Elmar - it was clearly not designed to wear a filter regularly or to record its focal length for cyan correction calibration....we've heard that it may be undergoing a redesign, but we have also heard that it is shipping now... Â Would be nice to know at least if it is "done" and M8 users should plan to buy now and put up with it, if we should wait for a redesign, if one is happening....the old Tri-Elmar redesign wasn't a qualitative change, but this one would be, and it would be a shame to buy now if it was going to be fixed. Â Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted January 5, 2007 Share #44 Â Posted January 5, 2007 I have found if I take a picture of my dogs ass at 2500 iso and push it 4 stops with a slight bit of back focus I can see an image of the baby Jesus when I view it at 400% Â Sorry, it's been reported already, but perhaps not on the M8. (OnlinePhotographer.blogspot) But please report when his mother or father appears. I am sure that this exception can be handled in firmware. Â scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjv Posted January 5, 2007 Share #45 Â Posted January 5, 2007 I have found if I take a picture of my dogs ass at 2500 iso and push it 4 stops with a slight bit of back focus I can see an image of the baby Jesus when I view it at 400% Â Â I followed these instructions and saw David Hasselhoff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 5, 2007 Share #46  Posted January 5, 2007 I followed these instructions and saw David Hasselhoff I always thought that was the same thing   I have found if I take a picture of my dogs ass at 2500 iso and push it 4 stops with a slight bit of back focus I can see an image of the baby Jesus when I view it at 400% Whilst I really understand the feeling behind this comment, I do think that these torture tests serve a really good purpose. It brings out all the potential problems in real life before they impact on that one important shot. See it in the same light as the "testing to destruction" of many other technical products. It has no relationship to reasonable use, but it brings out a lot of potential problems before they become actual problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted January 5, 2007 Share #47 Â Posted January 5, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Whilst I really understand the feeling behind this comment, I do think that these torture tests serve a really good purpose. It brings out all the potential problems in real life before they impact on that one important shot. See it in the same light as the "testing to destruction" of many other technical products. It has no relationship to reasonable use, but it brings out a lot of potential problems before they become actual problems. Â I completely agree. Â scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drjon Posted January 5, 2007 Share #48 Â Posted January 5, 2007 I have found if I take a picture of my dogs ass at 2500 iso and push it 4 stops with a slight bit of back focus I can see an image of the baby Jesus when I view it at 400% Â I tried this test (my dog didn't like it by the way - nor did I); but I saw an image of ten Leica engineers huddled around an operating table; they were all dressed in white Magenta coats with some kind of strange banding pattern on the fabric. I couldn't make out what was on the table, but there was also a priest, rabbi and imman in the room - not a good sign. Then I saw Terry Palin walk in - he announced that they were looking at an ex-M8, that the M8 was no more, that it was deceased. I countered that it was only sleeping, then I woke up. Â I would be intigued to learn about the real world situations for which these so-called torture tests will reveal potential problems that could become actual. This is a camera not a bridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted January 5, 2007 Share #49  Posted January 5, 2007 Then I saw Terry Palin walk in  Who's this Terry Palin? Any relation to Michael Jones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike prevette Posted January 5, 2007 Share #50 Â Posted January 5, 2007 I first saw this particular problem in a everyday normal shot. I didn't have to do anything crazy to induce it, other than to have the bulb of an xmas light in just the right spot. Â _mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drjon Posted January 5, 2007 Share #51 Â Posted January 5, 2007 Who's this Terry Palin? Any relation to Michael Jones? Â No, but he is related to Basil Cleese. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted January 5, 2007 Share #52 Â Posted January 5, 2007 Who's this Terry Palin? Any relation to Michael Jones? ROFLMAO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drjon Posted January 5, 2007 Share #53 Â Posted January 5, 2007 ROFLMAO Â kindly translate please! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted January 5, 2007 Share #54 Â Posted January 5, 2007 Rolling On (the) Floor Laughing My Ass Off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drjon Posted January 5, 2007 Share #55  Posted January 5, 2007 Rolling On (the) Floor Laughing My Ass Off  Thanks. I hope they didn't damage their M8 doing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted January 5, 2007 Share #56 Â Posted January 5, 2007 Sean-Â Although the M8 is the prime concern now, Mark Norton and I have been worried about the new Tri-Elmar - it was clearly not designed to wear a filter regularly or to record its focal length for cyan correction calibration....we've heard that it may be undergoing a redesign, but we have also heard that it is shipping now... Â Would be nice to know at least if it is "done" and M8 users should plan to buy now and put up with it, if we should wait for a redesign, if one is happening....the old Tri-Elmar redesign wasn't a qualitative change, but this one would be, and it would be a shame to buy now if it was going to be fixed. Â Thanks! Â Steve, I agree, it's one of a long list of Leica things I'm waiting for - information on how the filter/lens hood/lens cap is going to work if a filter is required all the time and on how the cyan correction is going to work when the camera doesn't know the focal length. Â I've asked Leica UK how it works and nothing has been forthcoming and I shouldn't have wasted my time doing so. I do wonder just how they fill their days up in Milton Keynes. They're not helping customers, that seems clear. Â "Useless" is one of the more polite words which comes to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted January 5, 2007 Share #57 Â Posted January 5, 2007 Thanks. I hope they didn't damage their M8 doing it. Â OR their dog! Â Who is Michael Jones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted January 5, 2007 Share #58 Â Posted January 5, 2007 Who is Michael Jones? Â He's the new customer services bloke at Leica UK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share #59 Â Posted January 5, 2007 Sean-Â Although the M8 is the prime concern now, Mark Norton and I have been worried about the new Tri-Elmar - it was clearly not designed to wear a filter regularly or to record its focal length for cyan correction calibration....we've heard that it may be undergoing a redesign, but we have also heard that it is shipping now... Â Would be nice to know at least if it is "done" and M8 users should plan to buy now and put up with it, if we should wait for a redesign, if one is happening....the old Tri-Elmar redesign wasn't a qualitative change, but this one would be, and it would be a shame to buy now if it was going to be fixed. Â Thanks! Â I'll look into that. It's on my list of lenses to be tested. Â Cheers, Â Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khanosu Posted January 5, 2007 Share #60  Posted January 5, 2007 I would be intigued to learn about the real world situations for which these so-called torture tests will reveal potential problems that could become actual. This is a camera not a bridge.  Hi Jon,  Here is a picture posted by Yoshinori in the thread:  http://www.leica-camera-user.com/digital-forum/12233-black-horizontal-band.html  In this real world situation it is difficult to avoid the banding since the probability is reasonably high that there is going to be some light at the edge that will cause the banding.  Furrukh Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/12609-new-band-is-firmware-bug/?do=findComment&comment=134394'>More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.