CVR Posted January 10, 2007 Share #41 Â Posted January 10, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) What is the movement? For small movements, focus once, then move your body back and forth from the waist. For large movements which are too fast to follow, pre-focus and anticipate the subject reaching the plane of focus, releasing just before it does. Â Â Thanks, thats excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted January 10, 2007 Share #42 Â Posted January 10, 2007 Hi Jaap,I know what your saying, except I beg to differ. I have had my 5D for a lot longer and have no concerns about the sensor dust. The question that needs asking is what length of time is reasonable between cleans, which is what I asked earlier. If you are happy with a clean every 50 to 100 shots, which is what it is tracking at currently then OK. I personally am not. I think, for the price paid and to be a workable tool you need more out of it especially when you are out in the field. The reason the agent is cleaning it, is because they will be the ones to provide the refund so it eliminates doubts about the quality of the clean and any damage to the sensor by use of brushes (not recommended by Leica, see manual page 128) or excessive swabbing (also not recommended by Leica). By the way, I only have one lens, so no lens changes. That frequency would annoy me as well. It seems you have a rather greasy shutter. In my case it was just dust blowing, and a need for cleaning off grease spots after more than 500 shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVR Posted January 14, 2007 Share #43 Â Posted January 14, 2007 Well, I have now had my camera cleaned for the fourth time by the supplier. After 50 or so shots, crap on the sensor again. It really astonishes and dismays me that a camera of this standard has these problems. Consider that this is my second M8. No lens changes. It is simply not accepatable. The reality is, that this is not an isolated case. There are a number of other reports coming in and only those sentimentalists who want to see Leica do well are happy to wipe their sensor more times then they wipe their ass. I beleive we would serve the industry well if there was more said on the subject and forced Leica to get their act together...maybe then we will see some significant improvement. Don't get me wrong, I love this camera....but it has to work well on all fronts. And this just does not cut the mustard. Not by a hell of a long way, in my opinion. To go on singing the song of "hey this is digital" will not move Leica on. Sorry to tread on toes. Â Ciao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaM8freak Posted January 14, 2007 Share #44 Â Posted January 14, 2007 I comlpletely agree with the last post... I had the same problem with my M8....now in Solms...and I fear when it comes back it still will be the same.. I even posted this problem here, and was bombarded by the " big guys" as being to ignorant to accept this problem being " normal" the M8 needs to have a "break in " period in which it is normal for this grease to fly around and stick to your sensor.... I was asked by Guy Mancuso if this finaly would get into my head!!! Well it still does not And I feel it is just one of those other flaws that turned uo and will turn up for still some time to come. Sorry if this was too negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Campbell Posted January 14, 2007 Share #45  Posted January 14, 2007 Well, I have now had my camera cleaned for the fourth time by the supplier. . . . . Ciao.  You're going to have to bite the bullet and clean the sensor yourself. There are a number of threads on how to do it. I use a combination of sensor swabs, eclipse fluid, arctic butterfly and CO2 cartriges.  Here's my experience with Canon: My 1Ds, 1DsII and 5D all arrived new from Canon with major crud on the sensors. The first time this happened (with the 1Ds - which you may rememberr had a msrp of $7999) I sent it back to Canon to be cleaned. After 2 weks it came back with just as much crud as when I sent it, although it had been rearranged. Like Leica the Canon documentation strongly discourages cleaning techniques that involve touching the sensor (it probably voids the warranty). Nonetheless I cleaned the 1Ds's sensor. After 3 cleaning cycles, I got it down to a few small spots.  Here's my experience with 2 M8s: Both arrived new from Leica with crud on on sensors. After 2 cleanings (eclipse fluid - the works) by me, both are spotless.  My general experience is that after the initial cleaning I need to clean every 500-1000 exposures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVR Posted January 15, 2007 Share #46 Â Posted January 15, 2007 I comlpletely agree with the last post...I had the same problem with my M8....now in Solms...and I fear when it comes back it still will be the same.. I even posted this problem here, and was bombarded by the " big guys" as being to ignorant to accept this problem being " normal" the M8 needs to have a "break in " period in which it is normal for this grease to fly around and stick to your sensor.... I was asked by Guy Mancuso if this finaly would get into my head!!! Well it still does not And I feel it is just one of those other flaws that turned uo and will turn up for still some time to come. Sorry if this was too negative. Â I think your opinion is noted and worthwhile, so good on you. If it makes any difference, my suppliers here, who look after me superbly are taking the matter in hand and are dealing to it. Â Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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