ustein Posted January 2, 2007 Share #41 Â Posted January 2, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) >One of the drivers to try a Mac is the user interface of C1 on a PC is poor and it looks much more intuitive on a Mac. Â Interesting I always found the other way round. But I started using C1 in 2002 on a PC. The browsing process on the Mac is not really useful. But I hardly use C1 anymore these days (more Lightroom, LightZone or Raw Developer). Â Uwe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest flatfour Posted January 2, 2007 Share #42 Â Posted January 2, 2007 We had one person in our organisation with an Apple while everyone else had PCs and to be honest it was a pain. This was five years ago and it has changed dramatically. However his work was over 70% graphics so we lived with it. Now he still has a more up to date Apple but it's the little things that annoy. I'm no expert but everything seems to cost more with an Apple and new PC devices appear ages before an Apple version and then it costs so much extra. I think the guy who started Apple was a genius and it is a great pity that his computer was crushed by the PC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveF Posted January 2, 2007 Share #43 Â Posted January 2, 2007 You didn't indicate if this has to be a portable system. If you want a portable system, the 15" MacBook Pro is the ticket. The 17" model is a bit heavy to carry around but is a great solution as a desktop replacement. Â I used a 17" PB for 3 years, carrying it everywhere so I know how it gets heavy. Â I just bought a 15" MacBook Pro w/ the 30" Cinema display, I wouldn't have it any other way. The only thing missing is Adobe CS3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bernd Banken Posted January 2, 2007 Share #44  Posted January 2, 2007 Here I have a link to a very interesting piece of software for Macs:  'Notebook' by circusponies  You are able to put a lot of different items (incl. photos) into this book, just the paper is missing - before you print...   http://www.circusponies.com/  Bernd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael-IIIf Posted January 2, 2007 Share #45  Posted January 2, 2007 I'm no expert but everything seems to cost more with an Apple and new PC devices appear ages before an Apple version and then it costs so much extra.  Anthony,  It's a shame that usually any questions raised here about Macs tend to end up in a Mac versus PC war. Us Mac users tend to be quite touchy and protective about our choice just like many Leica users are. However at the risk of being guilty of adding fuel to the fire I need to answer your two points.  A couple of months ago I was having a similar conversation with a friend about Apple prices and he was lamenting their high cost like you. To prove he was wrong we logged onto Apple's and Dell's web sites and spec'ed up two identical laptops. The Mac worked out at GBP £1,900 the Dell was GBP £2,400. Try it yourself some time.  I'm not sure what you mean about new PC devices but new technology frequently appears first on Macs. Apple embraced wireless before most had heard of it. Apple were the first to deploy USB, Apple were the first to switch to LCD displays. These are now commonplace technologies.  In a previous life I ran a mixed network of 47 work stations, Macs and PCs, sure there were the odd problems but no more than you would normally get between PCs and PCs. What I did learn is there is a great resistance in the IT support world to deal with Macs. Most support people are PC trained and they don't want to admit they're not Mac trained. I also have to say there was resistance based on the fact that Macs tend not to go wrong too often and that threatens their rice bowl. They just love re-installing Windows - it gives them something to do.  The modern Mac is Unix based, rock solid, embraces all standard protocols and sits happily on a mixed network. If any IT guy tells you otherwise, send him back to school  Happy New Year  Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted January 2, 2007 Share #46 Â Posted January 2, 2007 I have to agree on the new price structure on the mac. The Mac Pro that i got several months ago was certainly lesss than a PC system. the one issue was the specialized Ram though which is expensive. But i switched completely after 20 years or so of PC to Mac and i do think it was worth the switch overall. I certainly have less issues and problems. I am pretty neutral on the PC vs Mac issue though and the latest Mac's do run very fast and i am enjoying the switch over. I have the Mac Pro and the MacPro book and they compliment each other very nicely as a total system for me. It turns out it was a good decision to switch and i don't regret any of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamilsukun Posted January 2, 2007 Share #47  Posted January 2, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) new PC devices appear ages before an Apple version and then it costs so much extra. I think the guy who started Apple was a genius and it is a great pity that his computer was crushed by the PC.  I might not agree. Apple opened up almost all windows of today's computing. They have been innovative since the beginning. They still are. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/12439-help-with-apple-mac-please/?do=findComment&comment=131907'>More sharing options...
ski542002 Posted January 2, 2007 Share #48 Â Posted January 2, 2007 Hello, and a healthy new year to all! Â Not addressing the specifics of the original post... I've used Mac's for about 15 years, with great enjoyment. Â My favorite backup program is "BounceBack", by CMS Products. Simple to configure and utilize. Â I think Apple's switch to the Intel chip was a brilliant decision, one that will realize great benefits to the long-term stability of Apple Computer and the Mac. Â Have a 7-year-old G4 tower (a 450!) and a 15" PowerBook, that when new, cost almost $3,000. The PowerBook takes about 50 seconds to process a raw file to a tiff in Capture One Pro. Early last year, my son purchased a very base-line Macbook for $1,000 (and he got a free printer). I downloaded a demo of C1 on his Macbook to test it's speed. It processed a raw file in 15 seconds, versus the 50 seconds my Powerbook would take. Â The processor speed increase realized across the board in the last year has been nothing short of amazing. Â Our peecee... I spent 2 hours with tech-support on New Years day trying to update my virus-protection on our Dell Tower. Tech emailed me a 15 step process to get it to update. That didn't work. I replied back to them questioning their solution to the problem; still no response from tech. This reinforces one of the many reasons why I don't like PC's. There are always, always issues. The Mac just works. Â CD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted January 2, 2007 Share #49 Â Posted January 2, 2007 :D . I have to grin on the Capture One comment. On my Mac Pro i can do a 16 bit DMR or M8 files in less than 5 seconds, that's a 59 meg tiff final file. I did a P45 file at full resolution and it took 15 seconds. The new Mac's love that Universal code of C1. Â Okay I am cheating a little I am running Raid O with 2 WD rapture 10k drives. It fly's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski542002 Posted January 2, 2007 Share #50 Â Posted January 2, 2007 Boy, I feel like I'm in the dark ages. That's the main reason why I still use the Bridge in CS2 to run the vast majority of my raw files. C1 Pro on a pre-intel Mac is just way to slow if you're running 500 files. Â Time to upgrade. Â CD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted January 2, 2007 Share #51  Posted January 2, 2007 :D . I have to grin on the Capture One comment. On my Mac Pro i can do a 16 bit DMR or M8 files in less than 5 seconds, that's a 59 meg tiff final file. I did a P45 file at full resolution and it took 15 seconds. The new Mac's love that Universal code of C1. Okay I am cheating a little I am running Raid O with 2 WD rapture 10k drives. It fly's.   yeah but will it run QuakeIII lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrogers Posted January 2, 2007 Share #52 Â Posted January 2, 2007 Rather interestingly, I've just copied a file from my Mac desktop to a NTFS formatted drive on my XP desktop. I though Mac's weren't supposed to be able to write to NTFS volumes ;-). Has something changed recently - my Mac has the latest updates applied. Â That's actually a nice approach to accessing NTFS volumes on a Mac. Â That has worked ever since the Mac supported Windows networking (since well before OS X, I think...it's been several years since I ran OS 9...). The Mac is able to recognize your PC as a file server, and your PC takes care of the details of reading or writing the files, regardless of the file system used. So if your PC handles NTFS, and is a Windows file server, you can access it using a Mac (or a Linux, or anything else that can be a client to a Windows file server). Â If you tried to plug your NTFS drive directly into your Mac (without special drivers mentioned in other posts), you'd find that it couldn't recognize the NTFS volumes. Â Clyde Rogers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrogers Posted January 2, 2007 Share #53 Â Posted January 2, 2007 None of these are dumb questions, and most have been well addressed already. Â I can't completely answer your question about KVMs, but I can get partway there. I use a VGA/USB KVM to switch between two Macs (one of them a G5, the other an Intel-based, sometimes as a Mac and others as an XP system via bootcamp) and two PCs (one very old, one only a year old). I use a Logitech USB wireless keyboard and mouse as the only keyboard/mouse on the KVM. This setup works seamlessly with all systems involved, regardless of how they are booted. I expect a DVI/USB KVM to be equally simple. My KVM is from http://www.cablestogo.com, purchased from http://www.newegg.com. Â Second, if you set up OS X with the USB PC keyboard installed, it will take you through a short keyboard mapping exercise that gets the Mac keys in reasonable, consistent locations (making sure you can access the command key, for instance). It works very well. Â On the statements about screen resolution, I can't imagine using higher resolution than my MacBook Pro has. Even if higher resolution were supported, I wouldn't want it. LCD screens are notably sharper at their native resolution, so that's the resolution I'd want to use. Cramming too many pixels onto a small screen leaves you a choice of using "Accessibility" features to make (only some) things bigger, using a suboptimal resolution, or squinting at your screen to read tiny print. Yuck. Apple has always done screens right, and their laptops are no exception. Â Otherwise, I just echo all the good mac comments above. Do expect some pains, as your Windows intuition won't always work with the Mac. You might find your human intuition works a little better, however. Â Clyde Rogers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrogers Posted January 2, 2007 Share #54 Â Posted January 2, 2007 One more comment... Â I don't think it's worth it to wait for the new OS X version, as upgrades are relatively cheap and quite simple. Order after the Mac show next week just in case there are even minor laptop upgrades. And when you do order, get more memory. Â I'll shut up now. Â Clyde Rogers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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