75mm cron or 90mm cron ??

[Mauribix]

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Anyway, if anyone's interested I'm selling my 75cron ASPH (1month old)...

[UliWer]

PS. For me, the 75 cron is very easy to focus and the 90 cron AA is not. Good luck.

 

I know that many people will agree with you - though my impression is that there also more users complaining about the 75 cron having front- or back-focus than about the 90 AA. I think a lot of these complaints have one reason: the focussing-scale for the 75 is very short, for the 90 AA it is rather long - some say: too long. A very slight focussing fault with the 75 gives you results way off, while the 90 with it's slow reaction allows you to be more precise and is more forgiving for small mistakes.

 

I like the 75 very much, but it seldom sticks on my camera as long as the 90 does. The 90 is heavy and big - though I think no other lens gives you this feeling that you are just using glass, metal being only there to hold the glass.

 

One practical advantage of the 90 may be that it's viewfinder frames are more precise than those for the 75. With the M9 the 75-frames should be better than they were for the M8, but in close-ups below one meter you should be aware that the finder will show you a larger section than you get on the photo. The 90mm-frames are equally exact for any M since the M3. With 90mm the M3-finder shows it's superb quality as no other Leica finder ever could.

[bybrett]

The frame accuracy is not determined by the lens, it depends which camera model you use and at what distance you focus.

[budrichard]

I have both.

The 75 is the ideal portrait lens while the 90 is ideal for indoor short tele work. You will eventually need both as they have different applications.-Dick

[UliWer]

The frame accuracy is not determined by the lens, it depends which camera model you use and at what distance you focus.

 

Right.

The viewfinder for the M8 shows the exact frame for 75mm at 0.7 m, for the M8.2 at 2 m for the M9 at 1 m.

 

The viewfinders from M3 to M9 show the exact frames for 90mm at 1 m, which is also the shortest focussing distance for the 2/90 AA. I am not quite sure, whether the M8.2 changed this to 2 m.

[Guest AgXlove]

from all of the reply until now, more people choose 75mm than 90mm.

i want to know what is the + of 75mm cron that 90mm cron don't have, also what is the + of 90mm cron that 75mm cron don't have.

thanks.

sorry one more thing which one do you prefer the cron or the summarit??? why??

 

In deciding between the 75 & 90, think in terms of your subject matter. It seems that the 75 is a better choice for photographing people and doing portraits, while the 90 is preferable for landscape, travel and close up work. Also, the 90 has less depth of field at a given aperture and therefore deeper bokeh at maximum aperture.

 

I have the 90/2 'cron ASPH which I bought for landscape, travel and close ups. Nowadays I photograph people alot more than I used to and can see the value of the 75 for this type of work. The 90 is not a "bad" choice for people photography, but the 75 lends itself more readily to handheld shooting, especially in low light.

 

Regarding the Summarit vs. Summicron issue, I would always choose the Summicron, if there's any possible way to afford the 75/2. You are getting way more than just a 1/2 stop advantage in lens speed when you go with the 75 'cron. With the 75 'cron, you are getting ASPH lens technology & glass as well as build quality and longevity that is a cut above the 75 Summarit (that's not my assertion - this came from a Magnum photographer who shoots exclusively with Leica M knows whereof he speaks).

[Guest AgXlove]

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Anyway, if anyone's interested I'm selling my 75cron ASPH (1month old)...

Why are you dumping it so soon? Just wondering...

[Mauribix]

Why are you dumping it so soon? Just wondering...

 

I need to finance another beast (21/24lux) and I'm more of a WideAngle man.

I bought the 75cron for a specific work, and after that I found myself using just the 35lux alone most of the times.

 

Anyway, as to add something to the 75cron vs. 75summarit cause, the APO correction, together with the telescopic hood worth all the $ difference IMHO.

 

I had the 90cron ASPH in the past, apart from the size/weight which should be evident since the beginning, the focus thread is IMHO a big disadvantage for the 90.

Misfocussing is as easy as with the 75, but it's slower with the 90. It may be good for posed portrait or still scenes, but since I consider medium-tele lenses as "action" lenses for my kind of shooting I can't ignore that speed.

 

my 2cents

[mah]

I used both but prefer 75

 

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[Shadow Blaster]

In my case I've decided on the 90mm BUT am in a quandry between the 90mm Cron and the Zeiss 85mm Sonnar. Sean Reid raved about the Sonnar.

 

Any thoughts you have on the relative merits of these two lenses would be most appreciated. If the needle tilts in favor of the Zeiss I would actually be able to buy it. I've been trying for months to get a 90mm AA Cron but with no success but now that I have read Sean Reid's review I'm not sure what I want.

[lars_bergquist]

My mini-kit is a M9 + 35mm Summilux ASPH (new version) + 90mm Elmarit-M + a SF24D on a coiled "system" cord.

 

I am maybe a traditionalist. My excuse is that I have tried most of the profferred alternatives, and found them less appealing. I have also been married to the same woman for more than forty years now. She asked me if this was due to a lack of enterprise on my part. My reply: "No, it's pure self-preservation."

 

The old man, peering out of his rut

[tobey bilek]

All 90 `crons except for the visoflex models lose sharpness at close distance, 6 feet or less. Stopping down will not improve it. Leica admitted to this back in the 80`s. It is slight, but noticeable.

 

The 75 will not have the issue.

 

I still have my 90 2.8 elmarit viso model for close work. It is an oldie, but goodie.

 

Just by virtue of focal length, I consider 90 more versatile.

[Doug A]

I don't think anybody has mentioned it, but if you ever use the lens on any M body older than an M4-P there won't be any lines in the finder for a 75. That's why I'm looking at 90's to use with my M2. (Actually, I'm looking at screw mount 90's so I can use the lens on a Barnack camera too.)

[peter_n]

I use both the 75 and 90 Summicrons. As someone above pointed out, the 75 has everything and I would agree, my copy is maybe the best lens I have. I pair it with a 35 in a two lens/two body kit. I used a 90 ASPH for about two years and sold it as I thought its performance close up wasn't good enough. I replaced it with the E55 pre-ASPH and I'm much happier, that's a lens with beautiful rendering at all focal lengths. If I was forced to choose between the two I'd take the 75 even though I often prefer the 90mm focal length, because the 75 has qualities that no 90 I've ever used possesses.

[4X5B&W]

I recently sold my 90 Apo ASPH and bought the 75 Summicron.

 

I have come to realise that that the M series is at it's best at 50mm and wider. Any telephoto is much easier to focus accurately on a SLR. I still love R lenses and continue to enjoy telephoto and macro lenses in the R system.

 

I also prefer using my M series as a 2 lens traveling kit, and a 35/75 combination is just the right for kit for me. Optically the 75 Summicron is excellent, possibly a better all round lens than the 90 Apo, but the focal length match for a 35 just suits me better, YMMV.

[sanyasi]

I used both but prefer 75

 

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+1

 

Jack Siegel

[walt]

Greetings all,

having used both 90 and 75, I also prefer the 75. Sold my 75 2.5 earlier in the year due to financial issues and now in the market for a 75 cron.

[cbretteville]

Biggest problem with the 75s, any of them is the frame lines. Never mind the distance calibration. What I mean is just seeing and using the tiny corners sitting so close to the 50 lines can be a real challenge.

 

Not using the 75 focal that much and having used the Summicron quite a bit curtecy of friends and Leica Academy, I chose a Summarit. Very happy with the choice.

 

Carl

[fursan]

I have my M8 and film M. having both the focal lengths ( 75mm/90mm ), I reach always for

the 75mm cron apsh.

 

It is all about how one sees thru the finder.

 

With either, the M8 and/or the film M, I always carry the 28/50/75mm. Might add the 35mm if I feel like it. This is my unchanging kit. Just replace lux with cron, if I need.

 

Regards.

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which one do you prefer??...

Aside from personal tastes (i prefer 90 with FF & 75 with APS), people favouring 75/2 are often M8 users as the latter's RF is not accurate enough to focus with good hit rates 90/2 lenses at full aperture due to its wide 0.68x finder magnification, at least w/o eyepiece magnifier.