MattiasAndersson Posted February 5, 2023 Share #19201 Posted February 5, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Make and model please. (M8 and Elmar 24) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4673101'>More sharing options...
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wlaidlaw Posted February 5, 2023 Share #19202 Posted February 5, 2023 3 hours ago, pippy said: Congratulations, Mattias, and thanks for posting such an interesting, beautiful and 'New to Me' car Ivan!* Having just read through the wiki entry I must say that I was impressed by the 91hp / 1000cc statistic! Wonderful to hear that the Family is not only looking after such a special car but are active in the racing side of things. Good Stuff and I'm sure "Il Commendatore" would have approved! Philip. *Would you prefer it if we continue to call you John? Philip, I think those must be typical shetland pony sized horses, the commonly used power measurement in Italy in period, (and in the UK if the truth be told - particularly Jaguar). iI the 0-60MPH time of 14 seconds recorded by Autocar in their road test, is representative, I would have extrapolated a power figure of nearer 75 BHP, given the very low weight of the ASA at just 780kg. It is only 1 second faster to 60 than a 998cc Mini Cooper which only had 55 BHP (gross) or around 47 BHP net and which was not a lot lighter. My 1968 Lancia Fulvia 1300 HF was claimed by the factory to have 120 BHP, which was completely mythical. After changing from 2 x twin choke 38mm Solex carbs to 2 x 40 DHLA Dellortos, putting in Nardi cams, having the head gas flowed and C-R increase by Broadspeed, it was only then actually making 120 BHP on the dyno. Wilson 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 5, 2023 Share #19203 Posted February 5, 2023 3 hours ago, MattiasAndersson said: Make and model please. (M8 and Elmar 24) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I love the Mille Miglia version of this car. Wilson 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted February 6, 2023 Share #19204 Posted February 6, 2023 4 hours ago, pippy said: Congratulations, Mattias, and thanks for posting such an interesting, beautiful and 'New to Me' car Ivan!* Having just read through the wiki entry I must say that I was impressed by the 91hp / 1000cc statistic! Wonderful to hear that the Family is not only looking after such a special car but are active in the racing side of things. Good Stuff and I'm sure "Il Commendatore" would have approved! Philip. *Would you prefer it if we continue to call you John? Pardon the non sequitur, but somehow the final image of the last puzzle car fell through the cracks and never got posted. A happy coincidence after Wilson chimed in on the practice of the wildely optimistic Italian HP ratings of their red little bolides. This particular car, if memory serves me correctly dynoed at 113 SAE HP, while remaining quite drivable with useful torque. ______________________________________________ Yes, Philip - et al, John would really work better - after all, since I first set foot on US soil some 60+ years ago I've been responding to John, the name I chose when I decided to emigrate to the States - after Johannes (Slovenia) , Johan ( Austria), Giovanni and then Giovannino ( Italy), which my parents shortened to the customary Nino, all depending in which country we lived at the time, all in my father's thankfully successful attempts to evade Nazi /SS efforts to make him and his family disappear since he was one of the top-ranking active officers of the Royal Yugoslavian air force during the war. Thank you. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4673537'>More sharing options...
MattiasAndersson Posted February 6, 2023 Share #19205 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) Italian horsepower (or not, but the color is not missleading), the car I have for this quizz had 1/3 of the power compared to the ASA. The MM was supposed to be better for winter time use, and also had ohv as the car in the picture. Not as the more normal variants of this model as we have on the table now… Edit: over head valves, not cam Edited February 6, 2023 by MattiasAndersson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted February 6, 2023 Share #19206 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) Fiat 508 S? Edited February 6, 2023 by a.j.z Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattiasAndersson Posted February 6, 2023 Share #19207 Posted February 6, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Almost there, one more word with an y, not i. But yes, you won! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattiasAndersson Posted February 6, 2023 Share #19208 Posted February 6, 2023 I’m having breakfast now, will post full pictures of this little car later. It is a Fiat 508 Sport Spyder 1934. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattiasAndersson Posted February 6, 2023 Share #19209 Posted February 6, 2023 The Fiat 508 series was also called Balilla, ’table’ in italian according to google translate… Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattiasAndersson Posted February 6, 2023 Share #19210 Posted February 6, 2023 Looks bigger in picture than in person, a very cute car. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4674005'>More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted February 6, 2023 Share #19211 Posted February 6, 2023 Thanks! Actually Wilson gave a valuable hint by mentioning that the car is Mille Miglia eligible. I then remembered this car that I had seen at an Austrian classic car dealer: https://home.mobile.de/FRANZWITTNERGMBH#des_337493862 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted February 6, 2023 Share #19212 Posted February 6, 2023 Here is your next one Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4674685'>More sharing options...
MattiasAndersson Posted February 6, 2023 Share #19213 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) Maserati 222E also called Biturbo Had one for 10 years… Edited February 6, 2023 by MattiasAndersson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattiasAndersson Posted February 6, 2023 Share #19214 Posted February 6, 2023 29 minutes ago, a.j.z said: Thanks! Actually Wilson gave a valuable hint by mentioning that the car is Mille Miglia eligible. I then remembered this car that I had seen at an Austrian classic car dealer: https://home.mobile.de/FRANZWITTNERGMBH#des_337493862 There also was a Fiat 508 Mille Miglia, a coupe that was raced, with all 36 horses…. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted February 6, 2023 Share #19215 Posted February 6, 2023 vor 57 Minuten schrieb MattiasAndersson: Maserati 222E also called Biturbo Had one for 10 years… Correct, back to you! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4674741'>More sharing options...
MattiasAndersson Posted February 6, 2023 Share #19216 Posted February 6, 2023 Funny this, that car was one of the most scary thing I have had. I had it chipped, 320 hp and 1130 kg... So here is the next, with my 222E in the corner. I have cloned away the badge. . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4674759'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 6, 2023 Share #19217 Posted February 6, 2023 2 hours ago, MattiasAndersson said: There also was a Fiat 508 Mille Miglia, a coupe that was raced, with all 36 horses…. That is the one with the "fast back" body that I think looks particularly nice. However, I feel all Balillas are rather over-priced at the €150,000+ level. Are they for example, worth 5 times or more what a nice sports 1930's Riley would fetch, which I think look even nicer and are all somewhat to a lot quicker. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattiasAndersson Posted February 7, 2023 Share #19218 Posted February 7, 2023 The silver car is not easy to recognize, very rare, as in 250GTO rare, most of this model was built with another ’carosseria’. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattiasAndersson Posted February 7, 2023 Share #19219 Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) Here is a clue, this engine was what all was about. I knew the owner of the car, its history is a story about how things could be done in the era of great autos. Need to work now, will tell you more tonight. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 7, 2023 by MattiasAndersson 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4675363'>More sharing options...
MattiasAndersson Posted February 7, 2023 Share #19220 Posted February 7, 2023 The three Maserati brothers founded OSCA in 1947 (The Maserati car maker had been sold to Orsi ten years before). 1958 a 4 cylinder 1500 engine was engineered by OSCA and sold to Fiat (to be used in Fiat 1500 and later 1600). OSCA used the Fiat engine themselves for a short series of tube chassied cars, the 1600 GT, with body shells from Zagatao, Fissore, Touring and more. The engine was tuned and bored to 1600 cc. In early 1960 Fiat wanted to build a top of the line sports car with the OSCA developed engine, the Fiat Osca 1500. Fiat commissioned at least two carrozzerias to make prototypes, Fissore and Pinin Farina. Pinin Farina won the contract. Fissore had built 20 prototypes that Fiat sold, half of them to Cisitalia (to become the model DF85) and the rest to the OSCA brothers. OSCA tuned the engine similar to their own 1600 GT, and badge engineered them to be OSCA 1600 GT's. Note that this Fissore bodywork was not on a tube chassi, so not as exclusive as all other 1600 GT's. So what we have here is a OSCA-Fiat-Fissore. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4675616'>More sharing options...
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