Ivan Goriup Posted January 23 Share #19141 Posted January 23 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 hours ago, stuny said: Ivan - Perhaps you should pull another one from your vast collection of interesting car photos. No problem, happy to do it. For this turn I'm reminded of F. Scott Fitzgerald's famous quote that the rich indeed are different from you and me. Featured here are actually two very similar cars, same manufacturer, same coachbuilder, created for two slightly different purposes for a very wealthy client. Throughout their existence these two cars have always been together as a pair, owned by one person / collector. To me It is inconceivable that the pair will ever be broken up.....because that would completely miss the point of the whole extravagant exercise. Shouldn't be too difficult. Make of car and approximate year of manufacture , please. Any additional informnation would earf bonus points. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! pippy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4655353'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 23 Share #19142 Posted January 23 Are they D8 Delages? Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted January 23 Share #19143 Posted January 23 Wilson, sorry, no-they're not - but here's another clue. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! pippy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4655530'>More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted January 24 Share #19144 Posted January 24 (edited) Perhaps a little too esoteric.... again, so here's the rest of the story. In 1934 Anthony Gustav de Rothschild, the youngest of the Rothschild family at the time, ordered a unique pair of Hispano - Suiza cars from Hispano - Suiza's London agent J.Smith & Co. Ltd. The carshown was intended for less formal occasions when Rothschild or his wife preferred to drive themselves on less formal occasions and designated the J 12 Coupe de Ville, started out with a V-12 engined J12 chassis, the most expensive available then. The car was completed in a very rapid six months by Carrosserie Fernandez et Darrin who were renowned for finishing their cars with absolute disregard for cost, concentrating on beauty, comfort and safety. Note the almost completely enclosed rear section for passenger privacy. SL / 24-90 V.E. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 24 by Ivan Goriup AZach, Graham (G4FUJ), wlaidlaw and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4656220'>More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted January 24 Share #19145 Posted January 24 The second car of the pair, the long wheelbase K6 chassis based six-cylinder car built by the same coachbuilding firm of Hernandez at Darrin and intended for more formal occasions, was finished in identical colors with complementary interior. Pease note the rake angle of the windshield, matching the car above. It is reported that the pair cost in excess of US $50,000 ( remember, we're taliking '34 dollars ). All images, SL / 24-90 V.E. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Graham (G4FUJ), stuny, AZach and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4656260'>More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted January 24 Share #19146 Posted January 24 A view of both cars on the lawn of the 2014 Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance. Not sure I'd call them beautiful, but certainly imposing. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! wlaidlaw, pippy and Graham (G4FUJ) 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4656270'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 24 Share #19147 Posted January 24 Advertisement (gone after registration) They are a bit "Batmobile", almost a caricature of 1930's styling, especially the K6 chassis model. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted January 24 Share #19148 Posted January 24 .......and the mandatory rear view - of the Coupe de Ville. Thanks for looking, JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Graham (G4FUJ), pippy and wlaidlaw 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4656280'>More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted January 24 Share #19149 Posted January 24 Rear view of the chauffeur-driven Coupe Chauffeur. Anyone with a new image, please jump in. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! pippy, a.j.z, Graham (G4FUJ) and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4656291'>More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted January 25 Share #19150 Posted January 25 14 hours ago, Ivan Goriup said: The second car of the pair, the long wheelbase K6 chassis based six-cylinder car built by the same coachbuilding firm of Hernandez at Darrin and intended for more formal occasions, was finished in identical colors with complementary interior. Pease note the rake angle of the windshield, matching the car above. It is reported that the pair cost in excess of US $50,000 ( remember, we're taliking '34 dollars ). All images, SL / 24-90 V.E. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hello John, Nice photos & interesting history. $50,000 in 1934, in the USofA would probably buy what $5,000,000, more or less, would buy in the USofA today. 1932 was the worst year of the Depression. 1934 was not that far behind. Best Regards, Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted January 26 Share #19151 Posted January 26 Anyone? If not anyone else, I'll post one tomorrow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted January 27 Share #19152 Posted January 27 The usuals, please. As a hint, since it is a rarity, this is one of only two made, and was owned by a movie star. Extra points if you identify the famous owner. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! pippy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4660428'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 27 Share #19153 Posted January 27 Could it be a Stutz Blackhawk, with a special body? Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted January 27 Share #19154 Posted January 27 Not a Stutz. The designing house and the mechanicals come from two different firms in two different countries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 27 Share #19155 Posted January 27 (edited) Could it be a special bodied Chrysler Dual Ghia GS-1? The one owned by Gene Casaroll? Wilson Edited January 27 by wlaidlaw Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted January 27 Share #19156 Posted January 27 You're getting closer since it is a Ghia design, but not from Dual Motors. The Dual Ghias were a favorite of the Rat Pack, with at least Peter Lawford (you can see his in the opening credits to the TV series The thin Man starring Lawford) and Frank Sinatra owning them, though Frank gave his to Ava Gardner. Ronald Reagan had one, too, though the rumor is he lost it to LBJ in a card game - but that might not be true. The puzzle car is older than the Dual Ghias. Slightlly wider crop below without the Ghia logo cloned out. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! pippy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4661187'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 27 Share #19157 Posted January 27 Then the later development the Ghia L6.4? Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted January 28 Share #19158 Posted January 28 Not that recent, and with a different partner for the mechanicals. Here's a more generous crop. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Graham (G4FUJ) and pippy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4661786'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 28 Share #19159 Posted January 28 That rather shouts Facel Vega but the only special body one I know is the hideous Excellence EX1, which looks like the back of a finned Cadillac welded onto the front of a Facel Vega but not very well (a Kenny Everett car - "All in the best possible taste.") Wilson Graham (G4FUJ), pippy and Michael Hiles 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 28 Share #19160 Posted January 28 I think Wilson is on to something with the Cadillac connection... Philip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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