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John Z. Goriup

I was going to wait a while, but it seems more than one have taken the time to pursue the story behind this fascinating and remarkable automobile & are aware of the identity of this thing so I think it's time to reveal all. It's the 1935 Hoffman 8X..............and as indicated, it's the only one ever made. The curious thing about this car is that even though it wasn't officially commissioned by one of the big manufacturers there seems to have been enough money available to develop a on


Not a 450, 150, 200 or 300 - rarer than those, with only two original factory cars made, although some have been cobbled together later. Given that you can't measure the engine size from my photo and John is going away I will disclose that it is a 250S. This was the first car to use the new (or at least much revised) four cylinder engine planned for the forthcoming T series birdcage models. The idea was to produce a car with the straight line performance of the 300S but with the lighter and torq

John Z. Goriup

yota - hatchi ( yota -short for 'Toyota' in japanese, and hatchi - japanese for 'eight' ) is correct. It's a left-hand drive specimen of Toyota's first sports cars, a Toyota Sport 800. Small, light, nimble, powered by a 796cc two-cylinder air-cooled motor driving the rear wheels, designed by an aircraft engineer. 40 or so were imported into the United States, with the dealership organization unanimously deciding it wouldn't sell here, therefore the factory decided to simply leave them and l

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vor 5 Minuten schrieb wlaidlaw:

I had thought of the earlier Zagato Corvette but the dashboard is wrong as I think that used Veglia instruments. Interesting that it uses VDO instruments which suggests a German link. 


Wilson, the VDO fuel gauge you saw with the radio is from my Volkswagen Beetle! Posted that because of the Blaupunkt Frankfurt I have installed.

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vor einer Stunde schrieb wlaidlaw:



You are coming closer, Wilson.

Here some more hints:

Same period made, same coachbuilder/body made but slightly less powerful. Now think about a different flavor you already thought of although you referred to the wrong picture. In total even a bit less made than the IR 300, so a rarer car. The riddle car was mostly built as a GT coupe but for the boss they also made a convertible.

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vor 7 Minuten schrieb Rona!d:

No Glas.

Ok, got it now. It's a BMW 3200 CS, designed by Bertone. Anyone who has a riddle photo available, please jump in and continue (I have to remind myself to prepare a riddle photo for those cases).


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Andy, finally! Congratulations! I uncovered it at once when you posted 😉

About 550 to 600 cars made. This car replaced the 507 and 503 in one vehicle. Totally underestimated for a long time. I knew a convertible of a collector similar to the only original convertible made for Herbert Quandt the boss/investor of BMW.

I prepared the next one if you guys like.

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