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Here is your next one and I suspect I have done too generous a crop. Taken by my father with his Leica IIIA and Summar, while on holiday in Switzerland in the 1950's. The diagonal lines are I think, from the print drying and flattening device he had in his darkroom. Copied with an M9 from an old family album.

 

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Here is your next one and I suspect I have done too generous a crop. Taken by my father with his Leica IIIA and Summar, while on holiday in Switzerland in the 1950's. The diagonal lines are I think, from the print drying and flattening device he had in his darkroom. Copied with an M9 from an old family album.

 

This looks to me like an early-ish Jaguar saloon.

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Near enough. It is actually a Mk VII. My father had it on order from 1949 and accepted a MkV in the meantime, which he really liked. When the Mk VII finally arrived in 1953, he did not like it at all. With the radial Michelin X tyres, it had very heavy steering. He had opted for the high compression, big carburettor model and when he took it to mainland Europe in summer 1953, the petrol (gasoline) there was frequently too low octane. After retarding the ignition to stop the pinking, the Jaguar overheated and after my father made the mixture a bit richer to try and alleviate that, then sooted the plugs up, going down every mountain pass. He said he was mortified to be going through pretty Italian villages, with the onlookers going ooh what a lovely car, only for it to chug out of the village on three cylinders blowing black smoke out of the exhaust.

 

My memory of it is getting car sick in the back with the very wallowy ride and constant smell of petrol (a common Jaguar fault, which 40 years later in the 1990's, my Sovereign V12 still suffered from). Here it is at the top of a pass in Switzerland. You can see the Scottish registration number SE8755. That is my mother on the nearside of the car, with a Swiss friend on the other side.

 

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Congratulations, Michael!

 

Wilson, thanks for the interesting background story. I remember similar stories of my grandfather who prefered certain cars for those trips, depending on fuel quality and dealer net density. In 1952 he started with Mercedes convertibles and had not such issues anymore.

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Hi Folks,

 

I'm not sure I am the winner of this round - I just got old-ish Jaguar. More to the point I don't have pictures that would do this excellent thread justice, so I will sell off this turn for $0.01 plus other considerations to someone with a challenging car.

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Congratulations, Michael!

 

Wilson, thanks for the interesting background story. I remember similar stories of my grandfather who prefered certain cars for those trips, depending on fuel quality and dealer net density. In 1952 he started with Mercedes convertibles and had not such issues anymore.

 

Ronald,

 

My father did a couple of combined holiday/business trips a year (very strict UK exchange control legislation made pure holiday travel outside the UK virtually impossible in the 1950's). Coincidentally he changed from the MkVII to a Mercedes 220A the next year for the poor petrol reason. It was particularly low octane in Italy, where foreign visitors had to buy petrol coupons in advance from the Italian Consulate in their local country.

 

The only place I have ever had bad petrol was also Italy. The first time was a family skiing holiday in my wife's Citroen CX Athena in around 1983 at Cervinia where we filled up with dirty petrol. I must have had to strip down the carburettor over ten times on the way home and change the petrol filter three times. The second time was in my Jaguar Sovereign V12, when we came back from Sienna over the Grand St Bernard Pass (2469M). The petrol started to boil in the fuel injection system and we got vapour locks. We had to stop and let the car cool down with the bonnet open for an hour and even then it was not until we got well down the other side before all 12 cylinders said hello.

 

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220A ;-) In our case it was the 220 B convertible. That car was still alive about 15 years ago (so I assume also alive today). Unfortunately the owner 15 years ago wanted to sell to replace it by a Pagoda or the like. I started my business that time so no "play money" left (it was more than play money he wanted). I should try to find that car via the MB club, to know where it lives now. That 220B would be too much of a truck for me though to buy it today. If I would buy a grandfathers car, it would be the nice green 250 W111 convertible I can remember as a very little kid. That would also fit our family car pool best, a travel compatible 4-5 seater convertible with a big trunk.

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For that 0,01 $ i take the chance and hope you will accept the invitation. Two weeks ago I was allowed to ride a rally in a nice, very humble twoseater. Here you see some companions trying to get up the slippery slope to where i am.

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Have no fear. You will only see me contribute once, for i hardly have any knowledge of cars.

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Looks a bit like a Dellow Mk.6 but I don't think it had a clamshell bonnet.

 

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No, just some hooks with springs. The Dellow is the only car i care about, because i dearly want to participate in some traditional English trials and hillclimbs. But no, you have to ship yourself and come over to the mainland.

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No, just some hooks with springs. The Dellow is the only car i care about, because i dearly want to participate in some traditional English trials and hillclimbs. But no, you have to ship yourself and come over to the mainland.

 

I only ever did one trials as a passenger (movable ballast) in a strange specialist trials car called a Cannon, with a small Renault engine. At the end of the day I was plastered from head to toe with sticky clay mud and covered in bruises - never, ever again! :eek:

 

I stuck firmly for about 40 years to the other sort of hill climbing in things like the one below. This must be around 1997, I think at Chambon-sur-Lac, as the next year I changed from this Ralt RT40-Judd-Porsche to a Lola B50/92-Mugen Honda. I stopped in the year 2000, as my wife convinced me I was too old, too slow and too unfit to be driving those sort of cars.

 

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Wilson, thank you very much for your story. Bruises are all part of the game :D

 

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