Indeepthought Posted July 15, 2023 Share #20261 Posted July 15, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 7 minutes ago, Lelmer said: Definitely not a question of interest, but like Andreas, I had no idea at all...first time I see this car. Have you got other photo's from this car? I only have the images I took, but there is a lot of info online..🍷 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Indeepthought Posted July 15, 2023 Share #20262 Posted July 15, 2023 45 minutes ago, a.j.z said: I wouldn‘t say that, but I had absolutely no clue despite the clues. You also need to consider the time difference. When you posted the final clue we in Europe were sleeping and didn‘t have a chance to consider it before you discovered the car. My sincere apologies, I have family in the Uk & Denmark, I should know better. Again my apologies. 🍻 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 15, 2023 Share #20263 Posted July 15, 2023 Similar story here to the others; not through any lack of interest but complete ignorance of the car. I've never even seen a photograph of the 'Avanti' before and, in truth, had you posted the full-car snap with the name morphed-out I still would have drawn a blank! Amazing to think a board of directors saw the design-drawings and decided; "Wow! Yes, let's make that beauty!"... I'm sure, however, there will be a small group of enthusiast-owners who love their cars to bits and that's just as it should be! Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted July 15, 2023 Share #20264 Posted July 15, 2023 I'm embarrassed that I didn't get it. My best friend in the Air Force had a Corvette and one of the first Avantis (his was supercharged - not all of them were, and in the same color as your photos) which I saw often. He still has it. I just saw the interior shot (I've not been online since early yesterday afternoon) and I might have gotten it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 15, 2023 Share #20265 Posted July 15, 2023 When I was co-owner of a garage/racing car builder in St Ives, Huntingdonshire in the late 1960's, we used to get an Avanti, owned by the commander of a nearby US airbase, coming in for repair/servicing. It was the supercharged R2 model and although quite quick, it suffered from chronic overheating. We improved it with a larger aluminium radiator, large supplementary electric Kenlowe cooling fan and a large oil cooler. The main problem was the lack of airflow under the hood, which eventually we cured by putting two large NACA extraction vents into the top surface of the hood. In summer prior to our mods, it used to vapour lock all the time in summer. It also became very hot inside, due to the absence of air-conditioning, which was not an option on the R2 model. A rather under-developed car, which given Studebaker-Packard's financial situation at the time, was not surprising. I have a Packard motor company share certificate, dating from the 1940's, with unclipped coupons still attached. Wilson 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted July 15, 2023 Share #20266 Posted July 15, 2023 13 hours ago, Indeepthought said: Doesn't seem to be much interest in this particular 'Name The Car' Seems like old & obscure 'racers' create the most interest.. So here's the full blown image.. The clues:- The Studebaker family originated in Germany, they made the best covered wagons used in the opening of the West.. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 hours ago, IkarusJohn said: Is there any angle where that is a good looking, well made car? 10 hours ago, Indeepthought said: It’s certainly an oddball, the versions with the round headlights look even weirder. It was somebody’s idea that actually came to fruition. 🍻 9 hours ago, Lelmer said: Definitely not a question of interest, but like Andreas, I had no idea at all...first time I see this car. Have you got other photo's from this car? That's a very oddly finished and unflattering photograph of an Avanti. There's a black one that lives a few blocks from my home ... They're really rather nice looking cars... G 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 15, 2023 Share #20267 Posted July 15, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) On most cars, square or rectangular headlights do nothing for the appearance. The Avanti looks far better with round headlights. Designers don't pay enough attention to headlights IMHO - just think of the horrible "runny egg" headlights that were on my 996 Turbo Porsche. The headlights on my current Panamera 971 Hybrid are no oil painting but they have the merit of being extraordinarily effective. Wilson 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 15, 2023 Share #20268 Posted July 15, 2023 4 hours ago, ramarren said: That's a very oddly finished and unflattering photograph of an Avanti. There's a black one that lives a few blocks from my home ... They're really rather nice looking cars... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! G I don’t know about that, Godfrey. Your Fulvia is a far more beautiful car! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted July 15, 2023 Share #20269 Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, IkarusJohn said: I don’t know about that, Godfrey. Your Fulvia is a far more beautiful car! 😃 Well, I feel that way myself. The Fulvia Coupé is, to my eye, an archetype for the light two-door sporting coupe of the modern era. LOL! It is spare, minimal, and elegant in its lack of fuss, with just enough of a stylistic line to make it interesting to look at and appealing. Never mind all the details of its engineering... But I don't think Raymond Loewy did a bad job of designing the Studebaker Avanti, particularly given that he was designing an American car in a totally different environment and idiom compared to Piero Castagnaro and the Lancia Fulvia Coupé. Particularly for being an American car designed in the early 1960s, the Avanti has a very clean and attractive line with a minimum of doodads and ornamentation compared to most of its American contemporaries of the time. Of course, like most American cars of that era, it was rather simplistic and crude in implementation compared to what was coming in from Great Britain and Europe. I was always rather taken with it as compared to many of my friends' obsession with Mustangs, Camaros, Corvettes, Thunderbirds, et al. Most American cars of that era were great big wallowing barges ... the Avanti has some line and flair to it, with a singular line immediately distinguishable from the run of the mill competition. G Edited July 15, 2023 by ramarren 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 15, 2023 Share #20270 Posted July 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, ramarren said: 😃 Well, I feel that way myself. The Fulvia Coupé is, to my eye, an archetype for the light two-door sporting coupe of the modern era. LOL! It is spare, minimal, and elegant in its lack of fuss, with just enough of a stylistic line to make it interesting to look at and appealing. But I don't think Raymond Loewy did a bad job of designing the Studebaker Avanti, particularly given that he was designing an American car in a totally different environment and idiom compared to Piero Castagnaro and the Lancia Fulvia Coupé. Particularly for being an American car designed in the early 1960s, the Avanti has a very clean and attractive line with a minimum of doodads and ornamentation compared to most of its American contemporaries of the time. Of course, like most American cars of that era, it was rather simplistic and crude in implementation compared to what was coming in from Great Britain and Europe. I was always rather taken with it as compared to many of my friends' obsession with Mustangs, Camaros, Corvettes, Thunderbirds, et al. Most American cars of that era were great big wallowing barges ... the Avanti has some line and flair to it, with a singular line immediately distinguishable from the run of the mill competition. G I get your point. To my (young eye) the E-type, the 3 litre Austin Healy and the Daimler Dart were cars I found perfect in almost every way. Apart from loving the Mustang in Bullitt (a movie dismissive of the superior Dodge Challenger driven by the shotgun wielding baddies), the first US muscle car I saw was a split bumper Camaro, owned by the husband of my father’s surgery nurse. Its curvy lines and rumbling V8 were far more enticing than my mother’s asthmatic Singer Vogue and Anglia 105e we were tooling about in. Somehow, I’ve never found cars with no front grill attractive - they lack a smiley face! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted July 16, 2023 Share #20271 Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, IkarusJohn said: ... Somehow, I’ve never found cars with no front grill attractive - they lack a smiley face! Hmm, well, that's never bothered me. I grew up with a Corvair in the driveway and loved the Citroën DS as well ... heck, even my 2006 Merc SLK280 has only the least hint of a grille, its front end is dominated by the star and some black on black air ducting. You might be amused by the book Turn Signals are the Facial Expressions of Automobiles by Donald A. Norman. It's a good read... G 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 16, 2023 Share #20272 Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Indeepthought said: I only have the images I took, but there is a lot of info online..🍷 Having had a look at various snaps of the Avanti on-line this evening I have reconsidered my original impression and now I have to say I agree with... Ramarren; "...There's a black one that lives a few blocks from my home ... They're really rather nice looking cars..." Wilson; "...The Avanti looks far better with round headlights..." And back to Ramarren; "...I don't think Raymond Loewy did a bad job....the Avanti has a very clean and attractive line...(and)...has some...flair to it..."... I'm completely in the dark as to the production history of the Avanti but, aesthetically, there is a massive difference between the 'Round Headlamp' models; the 'Round Headlamp in Rectangular Surround' models and the 'Rectangular Headlamp in Rectangular Surround' model as posted. Oddly enough I find the rear-3/4 view to be the most attractive aspect of the design. I can now understand, to a fair extent, the appeal of this Ugly Unusual-Looking Duckling; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studebaker_Avanti Philip. Edited July 16, 2023 by pippy 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted July 16, 2023 Share #20273 Posted July 16, 2023 13 hours ago, ramarren said: 😃 Well, I feel that way myself. The Fulvia Coupé is, to my eye, an archetype for the light two-door sporting coupe of the modern era. LOL! It is spare, minimal, and elegant in its lack of fuss, with just enough of a stylistic line to make it interesting to look at and appealing. Never mind all the details of its engineering... But I don't think Raymond Loewy did a bad job of designing the Studebaker Avanti, particularly given that he was designing an American car in a totally different environment and idiom compared to Piero Castagnaro and the Lancia Fulvia Coupé. Particularly for being an American car designed in the early 1960s, the Avanti has a very clean and attractive line with a minimum of doodads and ornamentation compared to most of its American contemporaries of the time. Of course, like most American cars of that era, it was rather simplistic and crude in implementation compared to what was coming in from Great Britain and Europe. I was always rather taken with it as compared to many of my friends' obsession with Mustangs, Camaros, Corvettes, Thunderbirds, et al. Most American cars of that era were great big wallowing barges ... the Avanti has some line and flair to it, with a singular line immediately distinguishable from the run of the mill competition. G Speaking of Lancia, I really like this Lancia 1960 Apia Zagato GTE Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4815472'>More sharing options...
ramarren Posted July 16, 2023 Share #20274 Posted July 16, 2023 Yes! That's a lovely, lovely car! I know of one Appia Zagato GT in the Bay Area: I've offered myself for adoption to the original owners several times, just on the chance that they would leave it to me. "Sorry, but you're about 45th in line for that right now," the old man says with a grin. He and his wife bought it new on their honeymoon in Italy in 1958 and have had it ever since. It's just such a beautiful car...! Tiny, impractical, but stunning. G 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted July 16, 2023 Share #20275 Posted July 16, 2023 Okay, I don't see anyone offering another mystery car to figure out for a bit. So, forgive me if I'm out of order, but I thought you might enjoy this one. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! enjoy! G 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! enjoy! G ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4815542'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted July 16, 2023 Share #20276 Posted July 16, 2023 Alfa GTV? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted July 16, 2023 Share #20277 Posted July 16, 2023 No... Next guess... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4815578'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted July 16, 2023 Share #20278 Posted July 16, 2023 Perhaps a Fiat Dino coupe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted July 16, 2023 Share #20279 Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) The lights look like the ones on some NSU models but the rest doesn’t fit. Also some similarities to Lancia Flavia/Fulvia. Edited July 16, 2023 by a.j.z Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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