wlaidlaw Posted February 16, 2023 Share #19261  Posted February 16, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) The windscreen, all held on with self tapping screws looks like a home made job. Together with the bald tyres, the whole car looks to be in need of some TLC. My favourite screen on the Type 23 is the brass frame with two flat panes of glass in a V shape and no top framing. Wilson  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4687900'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 Hi wlaidlaw, Take a look here Name this car..... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
stuny Posted February 16, 2023 Share #19262 Â Posted February 16, 2023 Who will step in for Graham and post the next puzzle car? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 17, 2023 Share #19263 Â Posted February 17, 2023 4 hours ago, stuny said: Who will step in for Graham and post the next puzzle car? I'd be delighted for someone else to take over! However, to keep the thread afloat, if no one steps up to the wicket before,say, around 09:30 (GMT) tomorrow morning I will be able to send up another. You Have Been Warned!!!............ Philip. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 17, 2023 Share #19264  Posted February 17, 2023 Right; how about this one for a bit of fun? I only have one photograph of the car and I only have a pretty poor-quality digi-scan to play with but, hey, it's not as if this is a Photographic Forum where IQ matters............ It's very well-known and the full thing instantly recognisable so this might not take too long; Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4689346'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted February 17, 2023 Share #19265 Â Posted February 17, 2023 It appears to be a racing car, probably from Europe or the UK 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 17, 2023 Share #19266 Â Posted February 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, stuny said: It appears to be a racing car, probably from Europe or the UK Yes, Stuart, you are correct in both trains of thought. Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 17, 2023 Share #19267  Posted February 17, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Maybe a Lotus 30 (or a 40 = a 30 with ten more mistakes). Wilson 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 17, 2023 Share #19268  Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) Ah, Wilson; Would we then have to consider the 72-D as a Lotus 7 with 65 more mistakes!#?............. Another teaser? Cop the Cooling-Louvres on that bonnet! Wow!! There must be a huge powerplant tucked-down low under that nose! Or, possibly, not? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I have to admit that, to me, this car is an enigma. Aguably it is the most beautiful car of its type of its generation (for me? Yes!) but although the concept was pretty solid there were a few problems in final execution... Philip. Edited February 18, 2023 by pippy Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I have to admit that, to me, this car is an enigma. Aguably it is the most beautiful car of its type of its generation (for me? Yes!) but although the concept was pretty solid there were a few problems in final execution... Philip. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4690078'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted February 18, 2023 Share #19269 Â Posted February 18, 2023 I rather like the NACA duct, but that gets me no closer to the answer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted February 18, 2023 Share #19270  Posted February 18, 2023 Philip, I hope you can forgive the format in which I submit my guess at this current mystery car, but I just could not resist. One of my very favorite examples of the marque.......and as a bonus I got to  talk at length to the three people most closely involved in designing, developing, testing and racing this magnificent specimen. Is this the car ? JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4690188'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 18, 2023 Share #19271  Posted February 18, 2023 You can now buy replicas of this car, complete with 4 cam engine. They are close to £1m each. I suspect like most race cars, they will make horrible road cars, uncomfortable, hot, noisy and poor straight line stability. The original of this car had a straight line stability problem at high speed. A work colleague had one of the Paragon Jaguar C type replicas and it was a nightmare. I cured its worst problem by fitting a cold air intake box with a long tube down to in front of the radiator, thermal barrier tape round the exhaust manifold, cutting vents in the inner wing panels and fitting a very large oil cooler.  The underbonnet area used to get so hot in traffic, that the petrol boiled in the carburettors. Eventually I fitted a dam/overflow system in the SU H8 carburettor float chambers with return pipes to the fuel tank, so that the fuel was continually circulated, like on a fuel injection system. On V12 Jaguars, the return petrol to the tank, was run through the air conditioning system to cool the petrol, as vapour locking was a serious problem in the early fuel injected versions of these. When I took my 1988 V12 Sovereign over the Great  St Bernard Pass (8,000 feet), I was down to about three or four cylinders, accompanied by lots of popping and banging with vapour locking - embarrassing! Wilson 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted February 18, 2023 Share #19272 Â Posted February 18, 2023 Now I can't wait to see the car. Â Hopefully, after Philip reveals his image, Ivan will be kind enough to post his. Anybody out there know what it is, and is willing to go next when they win? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham (G4FUJ) Posted February 18, 2023 Share #19273  Posted February 18, 2023 9 hours ago, Ivan Goriup said: Philip, I hope you can forgive the format in which I submit my guess at this current mystery car, but I just could not resist. One of my very favorite examples of the marque.......and as a bonus I got to  talk at length to the three people most closely involved in designing, developing, testing and racing this magnificent specimen. Is this the car ? JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  I thought those intakes looked familiar. Took me a while to find my one photo of said engine bay, taken at what used to be the British Motor Industry Heritage Trust, now just known as the British Motor Museum. IF I have a photo of the whole car, it will be on film, so would take a lot more finding.  1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 18, 2023 Share #19274  Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Ivan Goriup said: Philip, I hope you can forgive the format in which I submit my guess at this current mystery car, but I just could not resist. One of my very favorite examples of the marque... Absolutely, Ivan. Thanks for posting your excellent photograph. Makes mine look absolutely terrible!............ Here is the full snap. The car - which is the sole example made by Jaguar - is, as you and a few others correctly identified, is the 1966 XJ 13. In this photo she is about to crest the rise at the Dunlop Bridge whilst travelling at considerable speed during a demonstration run at 'La Sarthe' back in 1984; Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. Edited February 18, 2023 by pippy 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4690933'>More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 18, 2023 Share #19275 Â Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, stuny said: Now I can't wait to see the car. Â Hopefully, after Philip reveals his image, Ivan will be kind enough to post his. Anybody out there know what it is, and is willing to go next when they win? I think we can agree that Ivan did more than sufficient to be declared 'the winner' here. I, too, would be delighted to see Ivan's picture(s?); the more the merrier as far as I'm concerned. It really is a beautiful - if imperfect - machine. Philip. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 18, 2023 Share #19276  Posted February 18, 2023 The wheels look very like Cromodora wheels as used on various Ferrari's of the period, both race and road. My 365GTC4 had centre lock ones of these. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham (G4FUJ) Posted February 18, 2023 Share #19277  Posted February 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Graham (G4FUJ) said:  Took me a while to find my one photo of said engine bay, taken at what used to be the British Motor Industry Heritage Trust, now just known as the British Motor Museum. As my photo (not a patch on Ivan's!) was taken on a Digilux2, that's the thread I have placed it in. Taken in 2015. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 18, 2023 Share #19278  Posted February 18, 2023 Norman Dewis, the chief Jaguar test driver, found out rather painfully about the high speed stability problem with the XJ13, when it hit the barrier at the MIRA test bowl and broke a rear wheel. Amazingly Dewis survived with just serious bruising even though he was not wearing a seat belt at the time of the accident. He had the presence of mind to force himself down into the pedal space (he wasn't a large man) as the Jaguar did multiple barrel rolls into the infield. My brother did the 2012 Mille Miglia in his 1932 Alfa Romeo 8C2300 Monza. He said they were overtaken on a number of occasions by Moss and Dewis in their C Type Jaguar, doing north of 150 MPH. Wilson 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted February 18, 2023 Share #19279  Posted February 18, 2023 Thank you, Philip. Here, a few of my images of the only Jaguar XJ13 ever built - taken on a cold & foggyl morning at Pebble Beach in 2010, when Jaguar was the featured marque. As mentioned, a huge bonus was that Norman Dewis, David Hobbs and Richard Atwood where standing nearby, trying to wake up and get warm with hot teas in their hands and were more than willing to talk about their time at Jaguar and their experiences with this car.....delightful. I will post the next riddle tomorrow as I'm knee deep in another project. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4691217'>More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted February 18, 2023 Share #19280  Posted February 18, 2023  A frontal image from a higher vantage point. Thanks for looking, JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4691220'>More sharing options...
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