NigelG Posted December 29, 2022 Share #19001 Posted December 29, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, wlaidlaw said: Nigel, Make sure you buy one that has been rewired, preferably with a new professionally built loom. Bristol and Iso Rivolta must have been the last companies in the world still using cloth covered rubber insulated wire. Wilson The other issue is the uncertainty re the wiring loom colours…the supposed colour coding doesn’t always match the wiring as installed AFAIK (I’m not sure the works were as diligent as they might have been…) Until recently (especially before the passing of Syd Lovesly) it was possible to glean details of a particular car’s build with a bit of digging and some first-hand knowledge directly from the original craftsmen- an advantage of such a small company with a long-term skilled workforce. Build sheets also show how many cars were essentially “bespoke” on order. For instance on my car (and I suppose most) there are little hardwood staves, covered in leather to match the interior, which raise the driver’s seat runners to set the seat at the correct height for the ordering owner as the seats were only adjustable fore and aft and not for height. Also I love the fact that when new features were introduced owners returned their cars to the works to be upgraded - mine received a heated rear screen at some point with the necessary switch factory-drilled into the traditional flat veneered dashboard at an appropriate spot, and also an override switch for the engine cooling fans that was apparently requested by those owners pushing the cars hard over European mountain passes… 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pippy Posted December 29, 2022 Share #19002 Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ivan Goriup said: ...For the next mystery car, I offer the attached,. and suggest that some "out-of-the-box" thinking might be helpful in nailing this historic automobile... 'Out of the Box Thinking' such as XLVI from XXIV in MCMLI?... Philip. Edited December 29, 2022 by pippy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 30, 2022 Share #19003 Posted December 30, 2022 5 hours ago, NigelG said: ...As a Bristolian you’ve nailed their idiosyncratic appeal. The 411 mk 1 or 2 is my next buy... Merry Xmas to you too, Nigel, and a great choice for a Xmas Pressie to yourself! So; as a self- proclaimed Bristolian can you please enlighten us on the pressing matter of the day which is 'What is the purpose of the vents in the rear wings of the 411?"..... Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted December 30, 2022 Share #19004 Posted December 30, 2022 3 hours ago, pippy said: 'Out of the Box Thinking' such as XLVI from XXIV in MCMLI?... Philip. That will teach me not to try to be too clever.........you are correct, of course - #46 ( XLVI ) in the 24 ( XXIV ) hours of LeMans in 1951 ( MCMLI ), the first Porsche ever to win in international competition. The car is actually a 1949 356 SL Coupe, Serial #063, one of four Sis prepared for the '51 24 heures. The three other cars all crashed in testing leaving car # 46 to contest the race, finishing 20th overall, but winning the 1100cc class. At thge end of the season, the car was sold to John von Neumann, who raced it on the West Coast, and then was sold to a privateers who raced SCCA events and significantly altered the car, turning it into a lightweight Speedster-like racecar. Sold to a Chuck Forge in 1982, and succesfully and enthusiastically raced by Chuck until 2009. After Chuck's passing, purchased by a collector of significant racing Porsches and very faithfully & accurately restored by Rod Emory to exact 1951 specs & appearance. I have followed this car since Chuck purchased it and talked to him often about his plans to eventually restore it to its original configuration and have numerous photos of it. The image below, taken early in the morning at the 2016 Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance, was the first appearance of the car after a monumental restoration - just as it appeared on the starting line at LeMans in 1951. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4620700'>More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted December 30, 2022 Share #19005 Posted December 30, 2022 Two images of the car while in the custody of Chuck Forge, Berkeley Calif. Posted to show the magnitude of the task prior to restoration. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4620704'>More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted December 30, 2022 Share #19006 Posted December 30, 2022 .....and a rear view. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4620706'>More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted December 30, 2022 Share #19007 Posted December 30, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) A few additional detail shots of the restored # XLVI, a truly historic & important Porsche. The inevitable rear view..... JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4620707'>More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted December 30, 2022 Share #19008 Posted December 30, 2022 A view of the engine compartment. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4620709'>More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted December 30, 2022 Share #19009 Posted December 30, 2022 The interior JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4620710'>More sharing options...
Ivan Goriup Posted December 30, 2022 Share #19010 Posted December 30, 2022 The car wasn't quite finished for the 2015 PORSCHE Rennsport Reunion V at Laguna Seca, but was shown never the less as the 'anchor car' of the 'LeMans Legends' display, being the first to win a class victory, next to the red / white CMXVII - the first overall Porsche winner of the race, and the actual 2015 winner of the race, the white/ red/ black CMXIX Hybrid. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4620737'>More sharing options...
NigelG Posted December 30, 2022 Share #19011 Posted December 30, 2022 7 hours ago, pippy said: Merry Xmas to you too, Nigel, and a great choice for a Xmas Pressie to yourself! So; as a self- proclaimed Bristolian can you please enlighten us on the pressing matter of the day which is 'What is the purpose of the vents in the rear wings of the 411?"..... Philip. Philip They are to allow interior cabin air to escape to the rear as part of the ventilation design - there are grilles in the rear parcel shelf - and have a weighted rubber flap to close them off to prevent exhaust gas entry when idling. Another idiosyncratic design solution 🧐 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 30, 2022 Share #19012 Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) Voisin C25 Aerodyne? Sorry my system had failed to show a whole lot of later posts until I made this incorrect guess Wilson Edited December 30, 2022 by wlaidlaw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted December 30, 2022 Share #19013 Posted December 30, 2022 vor 6 Stunden schrieb Ivan Goriup: Two images of the car while in the custody of Chuck Forge, Berkeley Calif. Posted to show the magnitude of the task prior to restoration. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! From todays perspective this looks pretty barbaric but they could not expect the hype about classic Porsche racing cars. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 30, 2022 Share #19014 Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Ivan Goriup said: That will teach me not to try to be too clever.........you are correct, of course - #46 ( XLVI ) in the 24 ( XXIV ) hours of LeMans in 1951 ( MCMLI ), the first Porsche ever to win in international competition. The car is actually a 1949 356 SL Coupe, Serial #063, one of four Sis prepared for the '51 24 heures. The three other cars all crashed in testing leaving car # 46 to contest the race, finishing 20th overall, but winning the 1100cc class. At thge end of the season, the car was sold to John von Neumann, who raced it on the West Coast, and then was sold to a privateers who raced SCCA events and significantly altered the car, turning it into a lightweight Speedster-like racecar. Sold to a Chuck Forge in 1982, and succesfully and enthusiastically raced by Chuck until 2009. After Chuck's passing, purchased by a collector of significant racing Porsches and very faithfully & accurately restored by Rod Emory to exact 1951 specs & appearance. I have followed this car since Chuck purchased it and talked to him often about his plans to eventually restore it to its original configuration and have numerous photos of it. The image below, taken early in the morning at the 2016 Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance, was the first appearance of the car after a monumental restoration - just as it appeared on the starting line at LeMans in 1951. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thanks for the story and photographs, John; fascinating stuff! Oddly enough I thought I knew a bit about #46 when I saw 'it' in the Le Mans Museum in 2011 but there was something which didn't seem quite right about it at the time. Having just managed to dig out the original file I discover that the car on display was marked-down on her flank as part of the 'Spirit of Le Mans' and it wasn't even a Pre-A Split-Screen. I should have paid more attention to my Ludvigsen!... OK; here's the next one. I don't have much info on it - I snapped it through trees! - but the basic stuff will be plenty. Good luck everyone! Philip. Edited December 30, 2022 by pippy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 30, 2022 Share #19015 Posted December 30, 2022 Really? No guesses? I must say that's mildly surprising. Clue anyone? The car in question was offered in a few different body styles and, over a 10+ year production life, there were more than 150,000 manufactured so fairly 'normal' in comparison to recent fare! The other half of the back-view; Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4621929'>More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted December 31, 2022 Share #19016 Posted December 31, 2022 Alfa Romeo Gulietta? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 31, 2022 Share #19017 Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, a.j.z said: Alfa Romeo Gulietta? Correct, Andreas. This one is the 'Sprint' version and dates to 1960. Very pretty thing in a lovely choice of colour! It was snapped resting in the middle of a small private garden Square in London where, once each month, some enthusiasts organise a meeting of a variety of Classic Cars old and new. I've chanced upon it - purely by accident - on a handful of occassions over the last six months and the selection on show has always been eclectic and fascinating. On this day, however, the organisers had left for lunch and the gates were shut so I had to take these snaps as best I could. In fact for the reverse shot the camera was held overhead just above the gap in the fence seen in the front view; Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Incidentally the shape of the rear screen, though not as high-into-the-roofline, reminds me strongly of that of an Alpine A110... Thanks for playing and over to you, Andreas! Philip. Edited December 31, 2022 by pippy 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Incidentally the shape of the rear screen, though not as high-into-the-roofline, reminds me strongly of that of an Alpine A110... Thanks for playing and over to you, Andreas! Philip. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4622332'>More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted December 31, 2022 Share #19018 Posted December 31, 2022 Thanks, also for the nice story! I hope that this will last longer than my last effort (but presumably in vain): Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4622886'>More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted January 1, 2023 Share #19019 Posted January 1, 2023 HappyNew Year! I will wait for first guesses until you are through your hangover 😉 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 1, 2023 Share #19020 Posted January 1, 2023 One of the later Cadillac V16 cars, around 1936? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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