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CG Simca 1200S Convertible c.1970 

 

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Correct Dunk. I was talking to the owner who had restored this car and had done a very nice job on it. He was trying to track down the single CG that was made with the Abarth-Simca 1300 DOHC engine to buy and restore. I was telling him of my father buying my mother a Simca-Abarth 1300GT and the ensuing problems. My mother who was very far from the world's greatest driver, slow, hesitant, distracted and nervous, just could not cope with a car which at the time made close to 100 BHP/litre and max torque was at around 6000 RPM. She constantly stalled it, especially pulling away from T junctions and sooted up the plugs. Even though told not to, if it did not start the first time, she would then pump the accelerator, totally flooding the engine. Sadly it went back after three months just before I reached the age of 17, so I never got to drive it. It was replaced with a more sensible (and boring) MG 1100. 

 

The Fiat 1500 you can see behind was an interesting car. The family have kept it in the condition it was in when they had to leave Algeria after its independence, with all their belongings, period luggage and ephemera. 

 

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Thank you Wilson. The Fiat 1500 looks to be a very 'box office' car and maybe worthy of a magazine article. When returning from a classic car event recently I was overtaken by an MG 1100 and a Morris 1100 in quick succession … both very smart cars. Whilst at the event I spoke to the custodian of the next mystery car - a well known lady in classic car circles and known for driving a prewar Alfa 1750. The knowledgeable lady advised that the mystery motor car has the turning circle of a London bus - necessitating a two point turn from her driveway onto the road. The lady obligingly opened the car's bonnet enabling me to photograph the modified third party engine … which might give a clue to car's identity. The pre-war car allegedly lapped Brooklands at over 100mph but I'm not sure if this was achieved in a race or during a test. Post-war, the car was  used as a UK police car and eventually went to the USA before repatriation to the UK'  In the second photo the lady custodian is sitting next to the car; she may not own the car but she 'looks after it'.  

 

Make, model/type and year of manufacture please. 

 

 

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I know this car or an identical one, which was once owned by a well known racing driver, whose sister-in-law was one of my wife's patients for about 25 years. I will therefore leave it to others. There was another very similar converted car sold in Belgium recently. Given that the original engine (in three different sizes over the life of the car?) was pretty good, I wonder why it was a not uncommon conversion. I suppose the original engine was quite expensive and if it needed replacing, the substitute was "cheap as chips". 

 

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I know this car or an identical one, which was once owned by a well known racing driver, whose sister-in-law was one of my wife's patients for about 25 years. I will therefore leave it to others. There was another very similar converted car sold in Belgium recently. Given that the original engine (in three different sizes over the life of the car?) was pretty good, I wonder why it was a not uncommon conversion. I suppose the original engine was quite expensive and if it needed replacing, the substitute was "cheap as chips". 

 

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Owned and designed by a successful racing driver … only five manufactured in 1939 and the project was abandoned when WW2 commenced.  British V8 side valve engine … which has William Lyons connections (sort of). 

 

 

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It is not the car I thought it was which was an Alvis Speed 20 with a Flat Head Ford V8 Pilot engine in it. One of these was owned by Eric Thompson, a driver for Aston Martin, HRG, Connaught etc. I knew Eric, as we both worked in the same business (Lloyds of London). His sister in law Joan was my wife's first private patient. 

 

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Another view of the mystery car 

 

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With the internals of the headlights the right way up.

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Well done Hektor … 1939 Raymond Mays V8 Sports Tourer 

 

 
 

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/raymond-mays/unspecified/2014997.html

 

 

The custodian is Carolyn Corliss seated next to the car  … CC is a well known motoring writer and former Christies motoring consultant 

 

 

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If anyone is interested, the Raymond Mays Standard V-VIII special is currently for sale at $295,000. It is in the June edition of Hemmings newsletter which I just received today (three weeks stuck in French post from Amsterdam, where the copies for European distribution are posted). Interesting it is still resident in Bourne, Lincolnshire, where it was made. 

 

A.F. Rivers-Fletcher claimed to have done a 110MPH lap of Brooklands in this exact Raymond Mays but with only around 75-80 BHP, one has to take this with a pinch of salt. Rivers, who I used to know quite well, claimed to have done a 119 MPH lap of Brooklands in the Rabagliatti Special Speed Six Bentley I used to have. This would have meant he had to have been doing over 140 MPH down the straights which it just would not do. The most I ever saw out of it was a very brief indicated 120MPH and it was not at all happy at that speed, with rapidly climbing oil temperature. 

 

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Wilson, Any car doing 120mph on the Brooklands Members' Banking would have been terrifying and I suspect impossible.  Is there any record of the maximum speed on said Banking?

 

Dunk, the V-VIII really was an excellent choice for "Name this car..."

 

I'm amused by our enjoying a photographic forum to indulge other interests and have noted over the years the interests in common of Leica users, be it cars, hi-fi, watches usw.

 

I will now go through my photos yet again and see if I can find something challenging but not impossible, one of the problems being that most of my photographs are with Kodachrome and have not been digitized.

 

While doing so I thought you might enjoy this shot in which the make and model of racing cars is easy, and you all should be able to guess the coupé on the right.

 

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Hektor, 

 

John Cobb did a 143MPH average lap round the Brooklands Outer Circuit in the 580 BHP 24 litre Napier Lion X1A engined Railton special. Given how bumpy the outer circuit was and the remaining bit still is, due to subsidence of the sand foundations, this must have been a "heart in the mouth" feat. To do that average lap speed he must have been doing close to 170 MPH down the straights - a very brave man. My father witnessed his sad end on Loch Ness in 1952, trying to break the water speed record, where his boat hit an unexplained wake and broke up. I took the Rabagliatti Special Bentley high onto the banking (very slowly as it was covered in debris and moss) in around 1985, long before Mercedes, who now own what remains of the circuit, started to clean it and restore it. I was amazed how steep it was and stationary, it felt like the car was going to tip over and roll down the hill. My kids who I had with me, were squeaking in terror. 

 

Nice picture of 4 x 156 Dino cars. It was amazing that Ferrari stuck with spoked wheels so long. I think the coupé in the background might be a 250GT-PF2. 

 

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Thank-you Wilson.

Cobb was I suspect a braver man that either of us.

The coupé on the right is a Lancia Flavia series 1 designed by Pininfarina.

It must have been one of the first, as the Flavia was only introduced in 1961.

Delightful car, I have never owned one, but have driven a few.

Incidentally Hugh Fortescue Locke King, who founded and financed the creation of Brooklands, was a cousin of my great grandfather.

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