macusque Posted December 27, 2006 Share #41 Â Posted December 27, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Don't worry Andy, I made much bigger mistakes due to late hours... Â So it is not firmware related and I guess I can go back to 1.1 without issues, thanks! Â Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robsteve Posted December 27, 2006 Share #42  Posted December 27, 2006 I have had no problems at all reading v1.2 formatted cards with OSX 10.4.8. The images do tend towards "warm" though...  Andy:  It might have been fixed in later versions of OSx. When the 1.2 firmware came out there were a few people that complained their Mac would not read the cards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scanner Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share #43  Posted December 27, 2006 Rob, the 280/4 Apo I bought used (non ROM) is slighty soft wide open, only at f/8 it is sharp, though again not on par with, say, the 100 Apo Macro.  Do you think that at Leica they could adjust a "bad" sample or maybe it is better to find another copy ? I'm not a pro and I could live without the lens for a while.   Dear Macusque,   1. Do you live in Europe or the states ? You must look at all the costs of sending and the costs of adjustment or repair. The 250 mm. apo is one of the finest lenses !! 2. So you can ask for the costs and will it be to bad then you can always decide not to do it. And when the cost are not to bad take also a ROM on it !!!!!!!!!! 3. Take the newprice and your used price that you paid. And then you must decide to which amount you let repair/adjust it. Maybe the last owner had an accident with the 250 mm. Greetings, Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scanner Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share #44 Â Posted December 27, 2006 Andy:Â It might have been fixed in later versions of OSx. When the 1.2 firmware came out there were a few people that complained their Mac would not read the cards. Â My G 3 gives troubles with the cardreader with 1.2. my G 4 doesn't !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scanner Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share #45  Posted December 27, 2006 Don't worry Andy, I made much bigger mistakes due to late hours...  So it is not firmware related and I guess I can go back to 1.1 without issues, thanks!  Cheers    With the using of ROM Leica has measured each F number and every F number isn't exact so the ROM has inside for each F number the difference between the right number and the real number. So with ROM you works very precisely. When I was in Solms to give all my lenses a ROM chip they explained it to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scanner Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share #46  Posted December 27, 2006 Don't worry Andy, I made much bigger mistakes due to late hours...  So it is not firmware related and I guess I can go back to 1.1 without issues, thanks!  Cheers  Yes, that's correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macusque Posted December 27, 2006 Share #47  Posted December 27, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) With the using of ROM Leica has measured each F number and every F number isn't exact so the ROM has inside for each F number the difference between the right number andthe real number. So with ROM you works very precisely. When I was in Solms to give all my lenses a ROM chip they explained it to me.  I heard the same when ROM lenses were introduced: more precise aperture in any automatic mode (maybe also in manual?) on the R8-R9, because the camera compensates for every tiny bit of errors in actual aperture.  I'll ask Leica how they charge for a complete revision of my 280 Apo. I live in Europe and I already contacted Leica for ROMing a couple of lenses. They ask about 300€ each... no thanks. But I'm also considering selling the lens to my dealer, who could take care of all these issues. I'll need to find another one though, not an easy thing these days...  Btw, I have no issues with my Mac (OS 10.4.8) reading 1.2 formatted cards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel66 Posted December 27, 2006 Share #48  Posted December 27, 2006 Guy, do you know which will be the improvement with 1,3 firmware? Thanks Gabriel  Gabriele Caproni Photography Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scanner Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share #49  Posted December 27, 2006 I heard the same when ROM lenses were introduced: more precise aperture in any automatic mode (maybe also in manual?) on the R8-R9, because the camera compensates for every tiny bit of errors in actual aperture. I'll ask Leica how they charge for a complete revision of my 280 Apo. I live in Europe and I already contacted Leica for ROMing a couple of lenses. They ask about 300€ each... no thanks. But I'm also considering selling the lens to my dealer, who could take care of all these issues. I'll need to find another one though, not an easy thing these days...  Btw, I have no issues with my Mac (OS 10.4.8) reading 1.2 formatted cards.   300 euro ???? euro 160,00/165,00 excl. vat/tax and that is worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scanner Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share #50  Posted December 27, 2006 I heard the same when ROM lenses were introduced: more precise aperture in any automatic mode (maybe also in manual?) on the R8-R9, because the camera compensates for every tiny bit of errors in actual aperture. I'll ask Leica how they charge for a complete revision of my 280 Apo. I live in Europe and I already contacted Leica for ROMing a couple of lenses. They ask about 300€ each... no thanks. But I'm also considering selling the lens to my dealer, who could take care of all these issues. I'll need to find another one though, not an easy thing these days...  Btw, I have no issues with my Mac (OS 10.4.8) reading 1.2 formatted cards.   300 euro ???? euro 160,00/170,00 excl. vat/tax and that is worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macusque Posted December 27, 2006 Share #51  Posted December 27, 2006 Leica Italia asked 230 € + VAT (20%) + 15 € for shipping back, so to be precise a total of 291 €, about three times what they charge for the 6bit conversion of M-lenses.  Maybe I should ask directly Leica AG in Germany ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scanner Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share #52  Posted December 27, 2006 Leica Italia asked 230 € + VAT (20%) + 15 € for shipping back, so to be precise a total of 291 €, about three times what they charge for the 6bit conversion of M-lenses. Maybe I should ask directly Leica AG in Germany ?  ask it directly to Solms, Gewerbepark 8 ! Really, it is worth it !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macusque Posted December 27, 2006 Share #53  Posted December 27, 2006 Thank you Rob,  I'll do it for sure  Any email to send a request ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scanner Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share #54  Posted December 27, 2006 Leica Reparaturservice: Senden Sie Ihre Leica Produkte bitte an folgende Adresse, zusammen mit dem ausgefüllten Reparaturbegleitschein (RBS). Im Garantiefall sprechen Sie uns bitte an, falls wir Ihre Leica Produkte abholen sollen.  Anschrift: Leica Camera AG Leica Customer Service Solmser Gewerbepark 8 35606 Solms Ansprechpartner: Andrea Frankl, Rita Woschee, Eberhard Jakob, Ingo Molketin Telefon: 06442 208 189 Telefax: 06442 208 339 E-Mail: cs@leica-camera.com Leica Ersatzteilservice: Der Leica Ersatzteilservice hält Kamera- und Objektiv-Accessoires wie Augenmuscheln bereit – auch für Leica Geräte, die über 30 Jahren alt sind. Hier finden Privatkunden das, was sie suchen. Der Service gilt jedoch nicht für professionelle Reparaturwerkstätten.  Anschrift: Leica Camera AG Leica Customer Service - Ersatzteile Solmser Gewerbepark 8 35606 Solms Ansprechpartner: Lothar Luehring Telefon: 06442 208 229 Telefax: 06442 208 90832 E-Mail: lothar.luehring@leica-camera.com Leica Profireparaturservice: Berufsfotografen bieten wir besondere Vorteile: kostenloser Service-Check 2x pro Jahr, 10% Rabatt auf Reparaturkosten, Reparaturen innerhalb von 2 Arbeitstagen bzw. kostenlose Stellung eines gleichwertigen Leihgeräts. Bitte füllen Sie den „Fragebogen zum Profiservice“ aus, um diese Vorteile nutzen zu können. Auskunft rund um das Thema Reparaturservice für Berufsfotografen erhalten Sie hier:  Anschrift: Leica Camera AG Leica Customer Service - Profi Service Solmser Gewerbepark 8 35606 Solms Ansprechpartner: Andrea Frankl Telefon: 06442 208 189 Telefax: 06442 208 339 E-Mail: andrea.frankl@leica-camera.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scanner Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share #55  Posted December 27, 2006 Thank you Rob, I'll do it for sure  Any email to send a request ?   Yes, see above !!! Also for your 250 mm. to adjust. Ask them and use a mailadress !!  Good luck. greetings Rob Foto Rob van 't Woudt v.o.f Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macusque Posted December 27, 2006 Share #56 Â Posted December 27, 2006 Thanks a bunch Rob ! Â Btw, I have the 280 Apo, not 250... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scanner Posted December 28, 2006 Author Share #57  Posted December 28, 2006 I am sorry, slip of the pen ( mac). of course it is the 280. Ask Leica what to do !!!! For instance Andrea Frankl and tell her you not a pro but if she can advice you. Or Frau Luh, both very good and very friendly. You may call our names and send our greetings ! Rob & Thea van't Woudt Netherlands, Utrecht Foto Rob van 't Woudt v.o.f or .com  Don't forget, the transport costs by DHL (?) is also for the adjustment of your Apo. So when you send it in for both points (adjustments, repair and the ROM) then it is 100% cheaper then send it twice !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted December 28, 2006 Share #58  Posted December 28, 2006 Guy, do you know which will be the improvement with 1,3 firmware?Thanks Gabriel  Gabriele Caproni Photography  Just back from Christmas Holiday in NY sorry i did not answer sooner , took a little break. Anyway yes from what we asked them to improve was . 4gb cards Better AWB Acurate WB on Continos shooting mode Faster buffer I thought the Color and Clipping is pretty good on the 1.1 but they changed that on 1.2 so they need to revisist that , this is on LCD Match brightness better between file and LCD   The rest i can't remember Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scanner Posted December 28, 2006 Author Share #59  Posted December 28, 2006 Just back from Christmas Holiday in NY sorry i did not answer sooner , took a little break. Anyway yes from what we asked them to improve was . 4gb cards Better AWB Acurate WB on Continos shooting mode Faster buffer I thought the Color and Clipping is pretty good on the 1.1 but they changed that on 1.2 so they need to revisist that , this is on LCD Match brightness better between file and LCD   The rest i can't remember   Dear Guy, sounds good !!! I am waiting till Leica put the new software on his site.  Thanks and greetings, Rob.  off topic: you also visit ground zero ? That's a wish from us to go there once in our life ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted December 28, 2006 Share #60  Posted December 28, 2006 Dear Guy, sounds good !!! I am waiting till Leica put the new software on his site. Thanks and greetings, Rob.  off topic: you also visit ground zero ? That's a wish from us to go there once in our life ![/quote  Yes i did visit ground zero but i went there in early Dec of 2001 also. very sad place to visit at that time. I spent a lot of time in those towers when i was younger. i will say though the memorial is very well done and the photography is breath taking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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