Franz S. Borgerding Posted September 24, 2010 Share #21 Posted September 24, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Ach ja,einfach ne SL2 mit dem Sensor der M9...(träum)! Alleine dafür, daß Du diese hirnrissige Idee hier auch aufwärmst, wünsche ich Dir an dieser Kamera dann die Elektronik passend zur SL2: Nämlich mit der Technologie von 1974. Das hätte sogar noch etwas gutes: Es besteht absolut kein Akku-Problem, da Autobatterien voraussichtlich noch lange produziert werden und bei anständiger, durch den Benutzer selbst durchführbarer, Wartung auch sehr hohe Standzeiten erreichen. Beste Grüße, Franz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Henri Klein Posted September 24, 2010 Share #22 Posted September 24, 2010 ich kaufe nur noch mechanische kameras, weil meine elektronischen kaputt gingen und meine mechanischen nicht. ich glaube mechanische kameras sind ein markt der zukunft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz S. Borgerding Posted September 24, 2010 Share #23 Posted September 24, 2010 ich kaufe nur noch mechanische kameras, weil meine elektronischen kaputt gingen und meine mechanischen nicht. ich glaube mechanische kameras sind ein markt der zukunft. Naja, so ein Belichtungsmesser kann schon drin sein. Nett ist es, wenn auch bei leerer Batterie der Rest der Kamera noch funktioniert, d.h. der Verschluß mechanisch gesteuert ist. Wie z.B. bei der M6 oder MP, den meiner Meinung nach ausgereiftesten KB-Kameras. Ganz drollig wird es bei den Elektromonstern, wenn sie akkugetrieben sind und keine Steckdose zur Verfügung steht. Das ist dann fast so lustig, wie wenn man versucht, irgendeine CR-Haumichtot-Zelle im weniger weit entwickelten Ausland (dazu reicht schon ein Trip in entlegenere Schweizer Dörfer:o) zu kaufen. Deshalb: Wenn Batterien nötig sind, dann AA oder maximal AAA. Beste Grüße, Franz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan-S Posted September 24, 2010 Share #24 Posted September 24, 2010 Lieber Franz S Borgerding,da bin ich ja froh,daß Du weißt,was mit meinem Gehirn ist. Du kannst Dir überlegen,ob Du Dich für Deine beleidigende Äußerung entschuldigen willst. Mit vorzüglicher Hochachtung! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rui Posted September 24, 2010 Share #25 Posted September 24, 2010 Apropos Akkus, Batterien und Elektronik, Vor ein Paar Wochen habe ein klein Ausflug nach Trujillo in Spanien, mit meiner Freundin gemacht. Sie hat die Canon EOS 30D mitgeschlept. Ich, irgend ein "veraltet und irrelevant" Leica M (ich glaube in diesen Fall die 51 Jahre alt M2. Oder war es ein andere? Egal welche, mein "jungste" ist sowieso 32 Jahre alt...). Nach den ganzen Tag rumlaufen und knipsen, wenn das Licht am schönsten war, gibt das Batterie der Canon plötzlich den Geist auf! Wie meistens in solche Situationen, kein Ersatzakkus dabei... Da musste die Freundin die Kamera einpacken und traurig gucken... Und ich? Ah ja, ihr weisst es schön: ich habe einfach weiter mit der M photographiert! War doch klar, oder? Das tuen sie sowieso, seit Jahrzenten. Veraltet? (Ab und zu geben die auch den Geist auf, und mussen Ferien machen in Service. Danach neue Filme reinlegen und weitermachen. Ob ich so was in 30 (in 5?) Jahren mit der Canon auch machen kann?...Glaube einfach nicht). Ja, ich liebe "veraltet" Kameras! Die EOS sind gut, lassen aber mein Herz ziemlich kalt... Grüsse, Rui AL-MOST-LY PHOTOGRAPHY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy.we Posted September 24, 2010 Share #26 Posted September 24, 2010 Lieblingspärchen Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/114007-leicaflexsl/?do=findComment&comment=1451337'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted September 25, 2010 Share #27 Posted September 25, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi All German LUF friends, Good idea to make a thread for Leicaflex SL How beautiful these cameras presented here ! My point of view: One of the best cameras that I know still operational since 1970 and recently revised in Solms Please see this thread: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-collectors-historica/97395-i-am-sad.html Sincerily Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz S. Borgerding Posted September 26, 2010 Share #28 Posted September 26, 2010 Lieber Franz S Borgerding,da bin ich ja froh,daß Du weißt,was mit meinem Gehirn ist.Du kannst Dir überlegen,ob Du Dich für Deine beleidigende Äußerung entschuldigen willst. Mit vorzüglicher Hochachtung! Lieber Stefan-S, manchen muß man es wohl mit der Dachlatte vor die Birne knallen, daß nicht alle Äußerungen hier bierernst gemeint sind. Ich dachte eigentlich, dieses in diesem Fall durch ausreichende Vergabe von Lächelmännchen kenntlich gemacht zu haben und denke deshalb nicht an eine Entschuldigung. Wofür auch? Beste Grüße, Franz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joop van Heijgen Posted September 26, 2010 Share #29 Posted September 26, 2010 Camera build quality -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The original Leicaflex and Leicaflex SL's are probably the most "over built" SLR's ever done! The finder of the 'flex and SL still ranks among the brightest SLR finders made. A couple of the old Leica technicians at Wetzlar once told me that the best built of them all was the Leicaflex SL. All shafts and drives were oversized and made to last. I have seen SL's that has had 1-1.5 million frames though them (used for copy work and film use was documented) and though you could feel some "slop" in the advance they worked perfectly. I have a couple of them, an old Leicaflex with the "pie" shaped counter and a Leicaflex SL Mot in black paint. Both are still being used, mainly for the 100 APO-macro and the 180 APO-Telyt. The black one occasionally misses closing down the aperture on the 100 Macro, but not often enough to warrant a service. I also have a Leicaflex, 2nd version, with the round film counter dial. This one shows the problem with the older Flexes. The curtain is torn and the amount of labor required to replace the curtain is far more than the camera is worth. You have to dis-assemble the whole camera (anywher from 4-7 hours of labor) to get to it. It does make a great paper weight though as it is heavy enough to flatten even the most prolific pile of government documents! What goes on these cameras are usually the meters, but there is areason for hand held meters anyway. The SL2 is probably the best "user" of them as the meter circuit was improved. If you get one that is in good shape - it will most likely outlive you (even if you are young). The SL2 Mot and the SL Mot had Leica losing money on each of them. The figure that I heard is that they cost almost 1000 mark more to build than they sold for (no wonder they only made about 2000 of them in total). I once had a SL2 Mot that had a misaligned motor. You would load up with film, turn on the motor and go through the film. When you opened the camera it had cheerfully torn all the sprocket holes and you had a narrow strip with images, two really narrow strips with filmtype and numbers on it and 100's of small filmchips all over! Leica made the ultimate exercise tool in 35mm too. The Tandem mount SL2 Mot. Two bodies on a bracket with an interval coupling between them. HUGE and heavy. Mainly used by sports photographers and for aerial shooting. I always felt that it wasen't the athletes that deserved praise - it was the guy with the Tandem SL kit!. Shooting aerials through the open cockpit door of a helicopter, you used one safety belt for the camera kit and one for you! __________________ Bests to Everybody, Tom Abrahamsson http://rapidwinder.com/ Flickr: Photos from T&T and Mr B RapidWinder.com Home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted September 27, 2010 Share #30 Posted September 27, 2010 Further to Joop Van Heijgen's message, you must know that at that time, Leica should release a camera better than the Japanese SLR, the output of Leicaflex SL proves that Leitz Wetzlar is capable to do better and stronger than japanese cameras. We know the rest: that the Leicaflex still works after 40 years see the 2 links below: Leicaflex - Camerapedia.org Leicaflex / Leica R lenses - Camerapedia.org Best regards Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz S. Borgerding Posted September 27, 2010 Share #31 Posted September 27, 2010 Well, many Nikons survived Vietnam War better than their operators. There's nothing special on Leica's SLR. Later on, they proved to be special. But the R6.2 seems to be an other story. Best regards, Franz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joop van Heijgen Posted October 2, 2010 Share #32 Posted October 2, 2010 Well, many Nikons survived Vietnam War better than their operators. There's nothing special on Leica's SLR. Later on, they proved to be special. But the R6.2 seems to be an other story. Best regards, Franz "There's nothing special on Leica's SLR.":cool: "The original Leicaflex and Leicaflex SL's are probably the most "over built" SLR's ever done! The finder of the 'flex and SL still ranks among the brightest SLR finders made. A couple of the old Leica technicians at Wetzlar once told me that the best built of them all was the Leicaflex SL. All shafts and drives were oversized and made to last." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 24, 2010 Share #33 Posted October 24, 2010 Hello again to our German LUF friends, Having some free time,i raise this thread with these 2 pictures : -among these 3 cameras (and my M9 and M8) it's the SL i like the most : we find the pleasure of photographing in the middle is the R4S Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M8 Summilux 35mm asph -do you like colour and bokeh around this rose ? This photo was taken in a public garden with a monopod SL Summicron 50mm Kodachrome 64 and Coolscan V Thanks for looking and comments Kind regards Henry Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M8 Summilux 35mm asph -do you like colour and bokeh around this rose ? This photo was taken in a public garden with a monopod SL Summicron 50mm Kodachrome 64 and Coolscan V Thanks for looking and comments Kind regards Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/114007-leicaflexsl/?do=findComment&comment=1481557'>More sharing options...
Guest Cammaster Posted November 4, 2010 Share #34 Posted November 4, 2010 ebay Artikel# 370452107184 Leicaflex, Doppelschwung ??? € 10000,- Wer kennt sich aus? Gruss Pascal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted January 1, 2011 Share #35 Posted January 1, 2011 Frohes Neues Jahr 2011 an alle deutschen Freunde von LUF mein Deutsch ist schlecht Bonne Année The last Kodachrome developped by Dwaynes in US Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leicaflex SL Summicron 50mm Thanks for looking Henry Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leicaflex SL Summicron 50mm Thanks for looking Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/114007-leicaflexsl/?do=findComment&comment=1545335'>More sharing options...
panda Posted January 2, 2011 Share #36 Posted January 2, 2011 Wie wäre es wenn einmal Aufnahmen dieser schönen Kameras in Leica Wiki erscheinen würden. Ich werde demnächst meine Aufnahmen aus dem Wiki löschen um Platz für bessere Bilder zu schaffen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *** Posted January 5, 2011 Share #37 Posted January 5, 2011 suche 64er sl mit 35er! occasionen bitte per pn! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lmax Posted January 5, 2011 Share #38 Posted January 5, 2011 Meinst Du 1964? SL kam erst 1968 auf den Markt. Erste Leicaflex 1964 (kleine Auflage, 5.000 Stück), könnte schwierig werden. Grüße! Lenn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *** Posted January 5, 2011 Share #39 Posted January 5, 2011 natürlich 64, da erblickten die geilsten dinge das licht der welt. bin mir der unlösbarkeit bewußt. gruss nach klön Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telewatt Posted January 20, 2011 Share #40 Posted January 20, 2011 nur was für gute Nerven! Leitz Leicaflex SL Gold Plated 24k Vergoldet bei eBay.de: (endet 22.01.11 23:06:02 MEZ) Grüße, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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