plasticman Posted February 14, 2010 Share #1 Posted February 14, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm trying to order a lens from NewOldCameras in Milan, but in order to register on their site, it appears one needs a 'Cod. fiscale / P.IVA' - which I assume is a VAT registration number? I've asked them how to order in an email, but the site seems rather arcane and difficult to use. Just wondering how to buy from them, if they only sell within Italy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MGCast Posted February 14, 2010 Share #2 Posted February 14, 2010 Plasticman You're right, that's a VAT registration number they're asking for. I can't help you otherwise. I have done lots of business with them over the years but I live in Italy. You will have to hear from them whether they ship outside Italy. For what it's worth, I've been very satisfied with their service, both buying and selling. You might want to call them. Ask for Watanabe Regards Marco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted February 15, 2010 Plasticman You're right, that's a VAT registration number they're asking for. I can't help you otherwise. I have done lots of business with them over the years but I live in Italy. You will have to hear from them whether they ship outside Italy. For what it's worth, I've been very satisfied with their service, both buying and selling. You might want to call them. Ask for Watanabe Regards Marco Thanks Marco They do indeed have some lovely equipment, and I've heard nothing but good things about them - therefore my disappointment when trying to order online. Guess I'll just have to plan a visit... Mani Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted February 15, 2010 Share #4 Posted February 15, 2010 Mani, they're my reference when it's up to used Leica gears! Best Staff in Italy. As Marco said, just call them and ask for Mr. Watanbe. If you need any help, just pm me, I'd help you. Ciao, Maurizio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christer Posted February 15, 2010 Share #5 Posted February 15, 2010 This is just a guess, I do not know the specifics of the company at hand. Normally in the EU, of which Italy is a part, you pay the TVA applicable in the country in which the sale takes place. I live in Germany, where the regular TVA is 19%, but if I buy something on mail order from another EU country, then I pay the TVA of the seller's country. This may be a higher percentage than 19%, or a lower percentage. I am a consumer and I pay TVA (except if I buy from a private person). I pay it to the seller if he has a commercial business (and he hopefully pays the tax to the state later). That's the end of the story for me. However, if I were a merchant, then, when paying the TVA I have collected from my customers to the state, I could deduct the TVA on the purchases I made. This is simple too. Except if I had paid foreign (EU) TVA. Then the deduction mechanism gets difficult. Therefore a system exists to avoid paying TVA on commercial intra-EU transactions. For this purpose you need to submit your VAT registration number to the seller. If you are a private buyer, or a non EU resident, then the EU seller will not need our VAT number - and you don't have one anyway. If your shipping address is outside the EU, then make sure you do not pay TVA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted February 15, 2010 Well I received an email from Luca di Noc explaining the process, and I've replied to reserve the lens I'm hoping to buy. Now we'll see how the transaction goes - I'm sure there'll be no problems, as I've heard nothing but the highest recommendation of this company. Thank you all for the advice and help. Mani Oh - and forgot to add - thank you Maurizio for the offer of help! Maybe you could bargain the price down a little for me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted February 15, 2010 Share #7 Posted February 15, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) NewoldCamera in Milano is a great shop. I visited them a few times and bought some things there. Since I live in the netherlands my situation is different, VAT-wise probably. I once ordered a special Summilux 35 mm and I planned to visit the Milan area anyway, so I paid it first and picked up the lens a months or so later. Email replies may take a day or two but I always get replies when I mail them. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandefotografo Posted February 15, 2010 Share #8 Posted February 15, 2010 New Old Camera prices are IVA/Vat included if the buyer is a EU resident. NOC are one if not the best place where we can buy ours toys.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share #9 Posted February 17, 2010 Just a follow-up to further endorse the amazingly good response from NewOldCameras: not only have we now exchanged a number of (very promptly answered) mails on the lens in question, they've also sent it to service to remove some internal dust, and promised to report back on its condition when it returns, so that I can be sure of exactly the condition it's in before I transfer any money. Great service from NewOldCameras - I totally retract the misplaced grumpiness in my first post. This is in stark contrast to one of the London stores to whom I've now sent three messages about a lens and received no response whatsoever. Obviously no recession there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveYork Posted December 21, 2010 Share #10 Posted December 21, 2010 Looks like a great shop, and their reply email was very timely and pleasant, but they don't ship to where I live (United States). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell Posted December 21, 2010 Share #11 Posted December 21, 2010 I've used them and had no problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wltpch Posted January 29, 2011 Share #12 Posted January 29, 2011 Hi Like to echo the many positive comments about Newoldcamera. Just got my Noct from them and the whole process was very smooth despite the immense distance between us(I am based in Singapore) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 2, 2011 Share #13 Posted February 2, 2011 HiLike to echo the many positive comments about Newoldcamera. Just got my Noct from them and the whole process was very smooth despite the immense distance between us(I am based in Singapore) I was there no more than 1 month ago (I live not too far) and Watanabe was very proud of his multi-year-long deal with Noctiluxes... ... he bougth them for years, putting ensemble 30 or so... waiting with patience... and now enjoys the flow of orders from everywhere... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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