robsteve Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share #381 Â Posted December 14, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I will add this one here again. Rob took this on my card using the 24mm at f2.8 and 1/30th. Rob, if you want the original DNG, let me know where to send it. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lecter Posted December 14, 2006 Share #382 Â Posted December 14, 2006 I will add this one here again. Rob took this on my card using the 24mm at f2.8 and 1/30th. Rob, if you want the original DNG, let me know where to send it. lecter.h at mac.com would be cool!! Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share #383 Â Posted December 14, 2006 Here are Mike Hatam and Rob Martin in the lodge having lunch. The exposure was 1/8th on the Voitlander 15mm. Rob's bluge jacket has some of the IR shift to it. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lecter Posted December 14, 2006 Share #384 Â Posted December 14, 2006 Here are Mike Hatam and Rob Martin in the lodge having lunch. The exposure was 1/8th on the Voitlander 15mm. Rob's bluge jacket has some of the IR shift to it. my coat ain't that colour for sure!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted December 14, 2006 Share #385 Â Posted December 14, 2006 Hey Rob how did you like my M8. LOL pretty nice .Yes you need a IR filter on the lenses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lecter Posted December 14, 2006 Share #386 Â Posted December 14, 2006 Hey Rob how did you like my M8. LOL pretty nice .Yes you need a IR filter on the lenses I thought it was cool.... the ultimate P&S .. heheh (heretic:D I know) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrisc Posted December 14, 2006 Share #387  Posted December 14, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have been following the IR concerns. Hope you don't mind me playing with your file.  Attached is a simple correction in PS, Problem seems overstated unless one expects perfection out of camera. My view is all files can benefit from PS.  Best  Melvin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrisc Posted December 14, 2006 Share #388  Posted December 14, 2006 I have been following the IR concerns. Hope you don't mind me playing with your file.  Attached is a simple correction in PS, Problem seems overstated unless one expects perfection out of camera. My view is all files can benefit from PS.  Best  Melvin Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/10895-yosemite-m8-trip/?do=findComment&comment=117852'>More sharing options...
macusque Posted December 14, 2006 Share #389 Â Posted December 14, 2006 Nice correction Melvin, Â how did you do that ? Â Btw, are you THAT Melvin Sokolsky ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted December 14, 2006 Share #390 Â Posted December 14, 2006 Yes Marco it is . Â Melvin that looks good . Myself i have been using the IR cut filters which pretty much takes out all the IR contamination but I do swing into a yellowish /green color cast which globally can be brought back. More waiting on C1 and Raw developer to bring us some new profiles to give us a little more out of the box settings. Â Â Now with your corrections did you notice any other shift in another color Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share #391  Posted December 14, 2006 I have been following the IR concerns. Hope you don't mind me playing with your file.  Attached is a simple correction in PS, Problem seems overstated unless one expects perfection out of camera. My view is all files can benefit from PS.  Best  Melvin  Actually, if you didn't know what the real colours were, a fix like that would work. Robs jacket was blue. Here is a shot I made with the 24mm with a UV_IR filter. It was done at 1/20th of a second so it might not be perfectly sharp.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrisc Posted December 14, 2006 Share #392  Posted December 14, 2006 In PS choose... Selective Color  Magentas.... slider -65 yellow +11 Black +2  Reds..... -3  Removes most of the IR problem in the image I corrected. It doesn't end there as the balance of the image needs help... the tablecloth is hot... faces are hot...  In the following steps I am attempting to increase the Dynamic Range of the image + balance the image.  My next step is to create a new layer.  Menu Bar drop menu. Duplicate Layer.  You now have two images in your Layers Pallette.  In Curves darken the new layer in so that everything in the image seem too dark except the overexposed areas. My input # was 159 Output 100 (in the curves menu)  Go to layers: in the Tool bar... drop menu to Layer Mask which reveals "Hide ALL" click   The image reverts to the original in overall balance. Now the fun.  Go to the Brush tool in your tool palatte 4th down rt. side. Make sure the White/ Black boxes in your tool bar is white over black.  Paint to taste... the tablecloth will darken and is controlable by the percentage of the "Opacity" notation in the layers palette box.   Please forgive my simplicity in steps tor those who are well versed in PS.  I do not believe there will ever be an out of the box perfect camera. Great images are created by the palette and vision of the photographerr. I realize there are photographers who need consistancy out of the camera and it is impractacle to go through the above steps. Although one can create an action to do the above steps.  Mataphor: Many moons ago when Camera Raw was being introduced ... Adobe invited a group of photographers to check it out. Someone remarked " You can make it look like Velvia. I must have made a face and was asked "Don't you like Velvia.  I remarked "Velvia is fine, but I'm more interested in "Melvia"  Best  Melvin  http://sokolsky.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted December 14, 2006 Share #393 Â Posted December 14, 2006 Thanks Melvin I will give it a go. Â So I am assuming that you have one and any thoughts you would like to share would be great . For members that do not know who Melvin is, he is one of the great fashion shooters of our era and a damn nice guy to boot. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted December 14, 2006 Share #394  Posted December 14, 2006 hell, now even B graders like me are getting into the act Color Mechanic plugin applied as indicated 80%, but it changes everything the targets were the left breast pocket, and left arm where the stripes go (if you had any : D) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/10895-yosemite-m8-trip/?do=findComment&comment=118325'>More sharing options...
Riley Posted December 14, 2006 Share #395  Posted December 14, 2006 Guy, i notice too that the guy with the beane hat on and the check shirt seated behind you shows colour shift too, and his jeans dont look right either, compare with 5D shot[EDIT: as rob points out the M8 shot of Guy alone] there is also a blue cast on the left of the tablecloth but thats probably just daylight creeping in  color mechanic changes all the magenta to the blue selected, there seems to be some loss of colour to the skin tone too PP so i corrected that here, along with some of the cast on the table, reds are a lacking bite now  i think this demonstrates that the shifts are somewhat linear, and while you cant get color mechanic to automate this process some play on the channels might be more succesful at that... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/10895-yosemite-m8-trip/?do=findComment&comment=118338'>More sharing options...
robsteve Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share #396  Posted December 14, 2006 Guy, i notice too that the guy with the beane hat on and the check shirt seated behind you shows colour shift too, and his jeans dont look right either, compare with 5D shotthere is also a blue cast on the left of the tablecloth but thats probably just daylight creeping in  color mechanic changes all the magenta to the blue selected, there seems to be some loss of colour to the skin tone too PP  What 5D shot? They are all M8 shots.  You were seeing the cyan corners of the 24mm with the UV-IR filter fitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted December 14, 2006 Share #397 Â Posted December 14, 2006 akk i just read the EXIF sorry lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share #398  Posted December 14, 2006 akki just read the EXIF sorry lol  I wasn't sure what you were referring to. I even thought you might have been referring to the 15mm shot with the Canon 20D on the table Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevenrk Posted December 14, 2006 Share #399 Â Posted December 14, 2006 Truly one of the most interesting and downright informative threads -- whatever you were looking to find out about the M8 -- I've seen on any forum in a long time. thank you for taking us on this ride and for being so straightforward in the information you shared. And going back over it again, just a lot of great images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinb Posted December 14, 2006 Share #400  Posted December 14, 2006 Thanks Melvin I will give it a go. So I am assuming that you have one and any thoughts you would like to share would be great . For members that do not know who Melvin is, he is one of the great fashion shooters of our era and a damn nice guy to boot. LOL   Cool. Checked his website and there's definetely some very nice images! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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