Guest guy_mancuso Posted December 12, 2006 Share #301 Â Posted December 12, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Carsten can I use that in my signature would make my life so much bloody easier. ROTFLMAO Â That was good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 Hi Guest guy_mancuso, Take a look here Yosemite M8 trip. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest guy_mancuso Posted December 12, 2006 Share #302 Â Posted December 12, 2006 I will let Jack tell you what he shot it with but it is not a 5D that is for sure. LOL Â trying to remember that log. ROTFLMAO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted December 12, 2006 Share #303 Â Posted December 12, 2006 Feel free It might need to be summarized. Let me help you: Â If you use: Canon: your mama is ugly Leica: your mother is charming and looks very young MF: your mother left, this is too technical. Use the M8 next time. Anything else: you use what??? don't tell your mother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter41951 Posted December 12, 2006 Share #304 Â Posted December 12, 2006 Carsten, that is nearly too funny! Made my day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Posted December 12, 2006 Share #305  Posted December 12, 2006  BTW, I'll wager the picture was made with a 5D.  Cheers,  Sean  Depth of field looks extended, shape is not 1:1.5.  Doubt it was made with M8, or on even this trip.  The IQ is admirable. There may be a twist in this one's tail when all is revealed.  Regardless Jack, an image to keep you motivated for a long time. Enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted December 12, 2006 Author Share #306 Â Posted December 12, 2006 I am so happy about the ignore lists on this forum. That is really a killer feature. Mine is up to about 8 people, and I can browse in peace now. Â Does the ignore list deal with people replying to or quoting the ignored person? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted December 12, 2006 Share #307 Â Posted December 12, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Carsten i had to edit a little to keep it under 300 charactors but i will leave it for the day. Â Too hard to pass up. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyp Posted December 12, 2006 Share #308 Â Posted December 12, 2006 Jack and Guy Those are great! I've only been to Yosemite one time, but it stays in your head a long time. GaryP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted December 12, 2006 Share #309 Â Posted December 12, 2006 Jack--that's a truly great shot. Â I'm not even going to guess what you bolted the Nikkor too But it worked! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted December 12, 2006 Author Share #310 Â Posted December 12, 2006 I just got back home last night after loading my images onto the computer, here are a few more M8 images. There were UV-IR filters on the lenses for the last three shots. I did not have one for the 35mm Summicron. Â Â This was taken in jpeg mode with the 35mm Summicron. Look at how the M8 holds the shadows and the highlights. Â This was the 24mm ASPH. This is a very sharp lens on the M8. Â Here I am using the second version Canadian 28mm elmarit-M. this was a $500 lens of Ebay. I was pleased with its performance. Â The same 28mm Elmarit-M Canadian shooting into the sun. These lenses were known to flare, but it doesn't seem too bad. A UV-IR filter was fitted too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted December 12, 2006 Share #311 Â Posted December 12, 2006 No, but in my experience, this is mostly easily skipped anyway. It is just so much more peaceful to not even see most of the ignorant posts. I am one of those who find it harder to ignore such posts than I should (hello Guy, I guess we are similar there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted December 12, 2006 Share #312 Â Posted December 12, 2006 It's hard to ignore stupid posts by people with a agenda. i need handcuffs sometimes and stay off forums that make me crazy. Frankly this is the best place for me beause the international flare and people with the same interest. This Canon love fest is ridculous with the 5d. The problem is this is the most that some can afford so with that in mind in must be the best camera or they will defend it as the best one because that is what they can afford to buy and damnit it must be the best one even better than there big brother the 1dsMKII because i saved 3 thousand dollars. Anyway that is another thread on some other forum that i don't want to know about. LOL Â I have been asked to join other forums and frankly i don't need the aggravation that comes with it. i made my camera choices and not looking back but forward with leica gear, it's what i like the most. Simply easy and less confusing for me. one word 5 letters with a red dot. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted December 12, 2006 Author Share #313 Â Posted December 12, 2006 Here are a couple noctilux shots in the local Pub. There was a UV-IR filter fitted and I was at 640 iso and F1. The exposure was 1/20th for Jack and the menu, 1/60th for Mike Hatam playing around with the 35mm summilux ASPH. Â Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted December 12, 2006 Share #314  Posted December 12, 2006 I'm not even going to guess what you bolted the Nikkor too But it worked!  Thanks for all the compliments on my El Cap image!  That Nikkor was bolted to a Linhof Technikardan 4x5 view camera. This shot was taken eight years ago around this same time of year. The lens was probably set to f22 and a few degrees of forward tilt were added to bring foreground and background into sharp focus, then a sheet of Fuji Provia was exposed for several seconds -- probably about 8 -- but I'd have to check notes to be sure. The resulting tranny was printed conventionally and I still have the first 16x20 C print on the wall right behind my monitor today  I have since scanned that file on a cheap Epson flatbed at 1600 LPI for an effective 50 MP file or so, printed it out and IMO it looks to my eye even better than the original C print! FWIW, I am still looking for the direct digital capture solution that will give me the kind of quality and image adjustment flexibility that I get from 4x5 film -- I have yet to find it  An interesting sidebar note -- as I was cloning out dust on the scan, I found a pair of climbers in yellow bivouacs on the side of El Cap waiting for the sun to hit them before they finished their ascent. Close inspection of the 16x20 print revealed them as well, but I never noticed them until I was able to inspect the scan at actual pixel resolution:   Cheers,  Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted December 12, 2006 Share #315 Â Posted December 12, 2006 What a great trip, you lucky guys! Thanks for taking so much time to show us your pix. Â What amazes me in the pano shots is the resolution (!!!) These pano's look like a 6x6 at least! Â Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macusque Posted December 12, 2006 Share #316 Â Posted December 12, 2006 An interesting sidebar note -- as I was cloning out dust on the scan, I found a pair of climbers in yellow bivouacs on the side of El Cap waiting for the sun to hit them before they finished their ascent. Close inspection of the 16x20 print revealed them as well, but I never noticed them until I was able to inspect the scan at actual pixel resolution: Â Â Â Wow Jack! Â After all the 100% crops evaluations you found a new discipline.. climberpeeping! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted December 12, 2006 Author Share #317 Â Posted December 12, 2006 Here is another Yosemite image. I used the DMR and 21-35mm lens. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted December 12, 2006 Author Share #318  Posted December 12, 2006 Thanks for all the compliments on my El Cap image! That Nikkor was bolted to a Linhof Technikardan 4x5 view camera. This shot was taken eight years ago around this same time of year. The lens was probably set to f22 and a few degrees of forward tilt were added to bring foreground and background into sharp focus, then a sheet of Fuji Provia was exposed for several seconds -- probably about 8 -- but I'd have to check notes to be sure. The resulting tranny was printed conventionally and I still have the first 16x20 C print on the wall right behind my monitor today  I have since scanned that file on a cheap Epson flatbed at 1600 LPI for an effective 50 MP file or so, printed it out and IMO it looks to my eye even better than the original C print! FWIW, I am still looking for the direct digital capture solution that will give me the kind of quality and image adjustment flexibility that I get from 4x5 film -- I have yet to find it  An interesting sidebar note -- as I was cloning out dust on the scan, I found a pair of climbers in yellow bivouacs on the side of El Cap waiting for the sun to hit them before they finished their ascent. Close inspection of the 16x20 print revealed them as well, but I never noticed them until I was able to inspect the scan at actual pixel resolution:    Cheers,  Jack  Jack:  Here is the same area, 100% crop out of a 21-35mm image.  Yours: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted December 12, 2006 Share #319 Â Posted December 12, 2006 Jack:Â Here is the same area, 100% crop out of a 21-35mm image. Â Interesting comparison Robert! It shows how good the DMR sensor is, but also how much the small sensors are hindered in capturing minute, subtle detail. What I want is a 3x3 array of those sensors for around 100 MP of LF capture area! Â Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdh Posted December 12, 2006 Share #320  Posted December 12, 2006 Guy  I think some of the questions about the 5D that seem to drive you crazy stem from the fact that Jack was shooting a 5D while the rest of you were using M8's. It seems natural to ask about a comparison of the files. After all, there are a lot more 5D owners out there and it would be a handy point of reference.  Regards - Seth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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