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...a 135 Tele-Elmar! No framelines, no coding available, inadequate RF baselength for accurate focusing.

 

Especially when you need to shoot fast and capture a "moment" happening!

 

Right?

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Very encouraging, because I am keeping a 135 mm Tele-Elmarit, with the goggles, ready for the M8 I'm standing in line for. But I will still keep the Tele-Elmar for my film work. It is one of the best lenses Leica ever made for the M -- and considering the 1964 date, that is fantastic!

 

The old man from the Age of the 135 mm Lenses

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Andy,

 

You are having so much fun with your M8! As am I. Are you going to send it back once we all understand the logistics (December 6th). I have experienced the streakiing so I know my camera has the problem but boy am I going to miss it. I am told it will be about 20 days, 10 there about 5 days round trip my guess is it will be closer to 30 days round trip.

 

Cheers. Terry.

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...a 135 Tele-Elmar! No framelines, no coding available, inadequate RF baselength for accurate focusing.

 

Especially when you need to shoot fast and capture a "moment" happening!

 

Right?

 

Isn't it more a matter of being able to do it consistently? If you make ten shots with a 90mm, followed by ten shots with the 135, all working fast with moving subjects, will the 135 deliver an acceptable rate of sharply focused images, compared with the 90?

 

I suspect that if the good folks at Leica thought their users could get consistently good results at 135mm they would have included frame lines at 135mm. Surely there's a point at which it no longer makes sense to include frame lines, otherwise the M3 would have had 200mm frame lines.

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OK - in order:

 

Terry - I'm sort of planning to send mine in in February, when it's cold and nasty out for shooting. But my Leica rep has specifically recommended I hold off until she gets a replacement demo camera with the hardware "fix" - just to see what the differences are. Like Guy - I might just have to get 2 in the end. A lot of fun - yeah! Tomorrow will be 1 week, and I made exposure no. 1232 tonight.

 

Jean - Well, I can do it fairly consistently, but I've been using the 135 for 4 years on a 0.72x film body (and even a .60x Konica Hexar RF body), so I've got practice with both focusing and framing using a small area. My M8 RF is actually out of adjustment for both distance and vertical alignment (I'll get it fixed when it goes in for the hardware repair), but again, I now know (after a few minutes chimping with my lenses) just how much to " front-focus" to compensate.

 

The M8 motor did allow me to concentrate on the focus and framing while following the action, which helps.

 

As Gary Player once said, "The harder I practice, the luckier I get." And in fact I WAS just "practicing" my 135 technique on this family when - bam, things got all wrapped up and I shot.

 

ALSO - It has been my experience that the 135 f/4 is actually EASIER to focus than, say, a 90 f/2. I'm not sure why - longer subject distances? smaller aperture? a longer and thus more precise focusing "throw"?

 

Bill - Actually, I AIM rather than FRAME with the RF patch. In this shot, the patch would have covered about from the girls upper knee to the top of her head, and about covered her torso and her father's waist, or a bit more, left to right.

 

For this shot the workflow was to turn the saturation down all the way in Camera RAW, which is my usual method for B&W conversion from DNGs unless I need to be able to darken a sky or some such (which I usually don't). Then fiddle a bit with the contrast and brightness and exposure and shadows before opening in PS. I also used the vignetting correction "backwards" to ADD a bit of darkening in the corners.

 

I set exposure manually for 1.5 stops over the meter (jayz, I love having a shutter dial rather than some anonymous control wheel thingy!), which blew out some of the snow, but guaranteed I held detail in the black dogs.

 

The color version isn't bad either, but monochrome just seemed to put the emphasis more on the event.

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Andy great shot . If i may ask , I sold my 135mm with the googles to Carsten which may have been a mistake on my part but was kind of big for me. But I do have a chance of getting the 3.4 APO at a good price even though my budget is shot to hell right now. What other 135mm is good and small to travel . The Elmar looks pretty good

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Andy great shot . If i may ask , I sold my 135mm with the googles to Carsten which may have been a mistake on my part but was kind of big for me. But I do have a chance of getting the 3.4 APO at a good price even though my budget is shot to hell right now. What other 135mm is good and small to travel . The Elmar looks pretty good

 

My Tele-Elmar is a champ. Last version before the 3.4.

 

But I wouldn't even think about using it on the M8 without the 1.25 magnifier. I need to use the magnifier with the M3!

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