AlanJW Posted November 26, 2009 Share #1 Â Posted November 26, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Has anyone else noticed that when set to 12 hour format, the camera incorrectly shows "AM" for the hour after noon? E.g. 12:15 in the afternoon shows as "AM"? This ought to be a candidate for the next firmware release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted November 26, 2009 Share #2 Â Posted November 26, 2009 I think nearly everybody is using the 24h format. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted November 26, 2009 Share #3 Â Posted November 26, 2009 Has anyone else noticed that when set to 12 hour format, the camera incorrectly shows "AM" for the hour after noon? E.g.12:15 in the afternoon shows as "AM"? This ought to be a candidate for the next firmware release. Â That's questionable... ... you mean ONLY for THE hour after noon ? How does indicates , say , 13:15 ? If it says "1:15 PM" one could say it's made intentionally... intending that "the afternoon" starts after the LAST hour of morning has ended, being 12 the last hour of "morning"... don't go to sleep early, tonight, and see if it indicates 12:15 PM or 00:15 AM... ... even if it's 00:15 AM one could say the "morning" is 13 hour long and "afternoon" is 11 hour long... simply a convention.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share #4 Â Posted November 26, 2009 That's questionable... ... you mean ONLY for THE hour after noon ? How does indicates , say , 13:15 ? If it says "1:15 PM" one could say it's made intentionally... intending that "the afternoon" starts after the LAST hour of morning has ended, being 12 the last hour of "morning"... don't go to sleep early, tonight, and see if it indicates 12:15 PM or 00:15 AM... ... even if it's 00:15 AM one could say the "morning" is 13 hour long and "afternoon" is 11 hour long... simply a convention.. Yes just for the hour between 12 and 1. 1315 would show up at 1:15 PM. I think it was deliberate even if erroneous. And I prefer 12 hour format -- I swore off 24 hour clock many years ago when I finished my army service. I am ok with 24 hour format when I travel -- just prefer it at 12. The error is a common one but should have been caught. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 26, 2009 Share #5  Posted November 26, 2009 Afternoon means exactly that - after noon. Not, after an hour after noon. The last hour of the morning is the one that begins at 11 o'clock.  12:15 (24 hour convention) is in the afternoon, and should be written as 12:15 pm  00:15 (24 hour convention) is in the morning and written as 12:15 am  Try telling an American that the time is 25 to 2 and see what sort of look you get Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share #6  Posted November 26, 2009 Afternoon means exactly that - after noon. Not, after an hour after noon. The last hour of the morning is the one that begins at 11 o'clock. 12:15 (24 hour convention) is in the afternoon, and should be written as 12:15 pm  00:15 (24 hour convention) is in the morning and written as 12:15 am  Try telling an American that the time is 25 to 2 and see what sort of look you get  Hey, do you mean we Americans can't tell time? The big hand is on the 7 and the little hand is between the one 1 and the 2. What could be simpler? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 26, 2009 Share #7 Â Posted November 26, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was in Seaworld in Florida, for my sins, a few years ago. Â An American visitor asked my what the time was, and I told him "25 to 2". He looked at me as if I'd just fallen out of a tree and insisted on looking at my watch to see for himself. He'd obviously never heard anyone tell the time like that. If I'd said "One thirty-five" he'd have been quite happy, I expect. Â Just a language useage thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted November 26, 2009 Share #8 Â Posted November 26, 2009 Life is FUNNY... ... one week ago I received an e-mail from this respectable German Company : Â Handster GmbH & Co. KG Marktstr. 9 D-39624 Kalbe / Milde Germany At the end of the mail a std. message stated that it was virus-verified at 12.23 AM ! Germans HAVE their own rules and ideas... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 26, 2009 Share #9 Â Posted November 26, 2009 Apart from the capitalisation, that's how it would be written in the UK too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted November 26, 2009 Share #10 Â Posted November 26, 2009 This forum has it's own time rules as well. Â When I am logged off, it shows me 16:57; logged on 15:57. Â The time given for this posting will be 16:59 when I am logged off. So in 59 minutes I can look at it and see that I shall be writing in a minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 26, 2009 Share #11 Â Posted November 26, 2009 In that case your timezone and/or DST settings are wrong. Normally the time given by the forum is correct. Your posting is 15.59 on my screen. Â Â http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/profile.php?do=editoptions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted November 26, 2009 Share #12 Â Posted November 26, 2009 I was in Seaworld in Florida, for my sins, a few years ago. Â An American visitor asked my what the time was, and I told him "25 to 2". He looked at me as if I'd just fallen out of a tree and insisted on looking at my watch to see for himself. He'd obviously never heard anyone tell the time like that. If I'd said "One thirty-five" he'd have been quite happy, I expect. Â Just a language useage thing. Â You want to try saying that over here in Holland. They have an extremely odd way of telling the time here. I even have to think about it now, and I've been here for years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mby Posted November 26, 2009 Share #13 Â Posted November 26, 2009 Love the comment on http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-time.html: Please consider the 12h time to be a relic from the dark ages when Roman numerals were used, the number zero had not yet been invented and analog clocks were the only known form of displaying a time. Please avoid using it today, especially in technical applications! Even in the U.S., the widely respected Chicago Manual of Style now recommends using the international standard time notation in publications. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 26, 2009 Share #14 Â Posted November 26, 2009 You want to try saying that over here in Holland. They have an extremely odd way of telling the time here. I even have to think about it now, and I've been here for years. Well, not just Holland. If you tell somebody coming from outside the Anglosaxon world to be somewhere at half three, he'll be an hour early. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted November 26, 2009 Share #15 Â Posted November 26, 2009 Well, not just Holland. If you tell somebody coming from outside the Anglosaxon world to be somewhere at half three, he'll be an hour early. Â True. But what's with this '5 after half an hour before' instead of '25 to'. that's the bit that throws me at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 26, 2009 Share #16 Â Posted November 26, 2009 True. But what's with this '5 after half an hour before' instead of '25 to'. that's the bit that throws me at times. I think it is strictly logical. But then, I'm not female Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted November 26, 2009 Share #17  Posted November 26, 2009 I think it is strictly logical. But then, I'm not female  Ooooo! Ouch! :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mboerma Posted November 26, 2009 Share #18 Â Posted November 26, 2009 True. But what's with this '5 after half an hour before' instead of '25 to'. that's the bit that throws me at times. Â LOL. "Vijf over half 4" ("Five past half four"). Isn't that clear and simple?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted November 26, 2009 Share #19 Â Posted November 26, 2009 FOR ME sounds clearly 4:35 ... but all your joking about make me wonder if I'm right... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mboerma Posted November 26, 2009 Share #20 Â Posted November 26, 2009 FOR ME sounds clearly 4:35 ... but all your joking about make me wonder if I'm right... Â "Five past Half Four" is 3:35, in the Netherlands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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