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Hi guys, Could I ask for your experience for a moment? I'm thinking about an equipment acquisition (not an S3 unfortunately!) to help me solve a problem and do some better work. I've been getting a few jobs photographing small accessories recently -- pin badges / lapel badges, shiny little things like that -- and am finding the otherwise excellent APO MACRO SUMMARIT 120/2.5 often won't get me as close as I'd like. My customer was happy with my work, regardless, and more is coming down the pipeline. I can deliver what I need to do with the native 120 and cropping, or setting up different shots to begin with; but I'd really like to get 1:1, or past the 1:2 the S-120 stops at, for the smaller trinkets (what I'm really talking about is I'd like the perspective, the look, the close camera-subject distance would give me). A portion of the work is plain-vanilla product stills for catalog/online stores and the 120 and a longer working distance is fine for that, but I also got, and will get, creative work from them which is used for posters / ads: that's where I want to be getting up very close and making the more dramatic photographs of their product that I'd like to. Has anyone out there been in my shoes: tried the C645 system Zeiss 120 Makro and got a result; or tried it and found it wasn't the right solution? All stories welcome---even if you didn't use the Zeiss 120 for 1:1 stuff, how did you find it for what you did use it for? Cheers guys Tom Postscript: Just as a pre-emptive strike, I'd like to keep advice limited to the S-system (inc. S-to-Contax645 obviously). Using other formats and systems to solve my problem is of course an option---one I don't need to talk about here on the S-system forum. I really like the S-system for my work and my preference is to find an S-system based solution, I appreciate that that may be like trying to ice-skate uphill in some cases but I'd hope you can appreciate my freedom of choice to do so. Also! I know the Zeiss 120 is a manual focus only lens; I only focus manually on the S, so that works itself out OK