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Hi guys, Could I ask for your experience for a moment? I'm thinking about an equipment acquisition (not an S3 unfortunately!) to help me solve a problem and do some better work. I've been getting a few jobs photographing small accessories recently -- pin badges / lapel badges, shiny little things like that -- and am finding the otherwise excellent APO MACRO SUMMARIT 120/2.5 often won't get me as close as I'd like. My customer was happy with my work, regardless, and more is coming down the pipeline. I can deliver what I need to do with the native 120 and cropping, or setting up different shots to begin with; but I'd really like to get 1:1, or past the 1:2 the S-120 stops at, for the smaller trinkets (what I'm really talking about is I'd like the perspective, the look, the close camera-subject distance would give me). A portion of the work is plain-vanilla product stills for catalog/online stores and the 120 and a longer working distance is fine for that, but I also got, and will get, creative work from them which is used for posters / ads: that's where I want to be getting up very close and making the more dramatic photographs of their product that I'd like to. Has anyone out there been in my shoes: tried the C645 system Zeiss 120 Makro and got a result; or tried it and found it wasn't the right solution? All stories welcome---even if you didn't use the Zeiss 120 for 1:1 stuff, how did you find it for what you did use it for? Cheers guys Tom Postscript: Just as a pre-emptive strike, I'd like to keep advice limited to the S-system (inc. S-to-Contax645 obviously). Using other formats and systems to solve my problem is of course an option---one I don't need to talk about here on the S-system forum. I really like the S-system for my work and my preference is to find an S-system based solution, I appreciate that that may be like trying to ice-skate uphill in some cases but I'd hope you can appreciate my freedom of choice to do so. Also! I know the Zeiss 120 is a manual focus only lens; I only focus manually on the S, so that works itself out OK

Dieser Beitrag dient lediglich zur Information und NICHT für irgendeine Verkaufsanbahnung. Vielleicht ist er jemandem von Nutzen. Leica, ELPRO, Close-Up Lens Dioptric, Focal Length, Object Field, Reproduction Ratio Elpro 1 2,51 dioptric 399,04mm focal length 50mm f/2 Summicron-R II 184x276 / 91x137 mm Object Field Elpro 2 4,92 dioptric 203,45mm focal length 50mm f/2 Summicron-R II 94x141 / 62x93 mm Object Field Elpro 4 0,75 dioptric 1333,57mm focal length 100mm f/4 Macro-Elmar-R 323x484 / 61x92 mm Object Field 100mm f/4 Macro-Elmar-R with Macro Adapter-R63x94 / 34x51 mm OF 135mm f/2.8 Elmarit-R II 237x355 / 106x159 mm Object Field 180mm f/4 Elmar-R 176x267 / 80x120 mm Object Field Elpro 3 1,66 dioptric 602,56mm focal length 90mm 2.8 Elmarit-R II + 90mm 2 Summicron-R 161x241/72x108 mm OF 100mm f/4 Macro-Elmar-R 145x218/48x72 mm OF 100mm f/4 Macro-Elmar-R with Macro-Adapter-R49x43/29x44 mm OF 135mm f/2.8 Elmarit-R II 107x160/66x99 mm OF 180mm f/4 Elmar-R 80x120/48x72 mm OF ------- 50mm f/2 Summicron-R II infinity / 0.5m Type 1 - 184x276 / 91x137 mm Object Field - 2.51 dioptric – 1:7.7 / 1:3.8 Type 2 - 94x141 / 62x93 mm Object Field - 4.92 dioptric – 1:3.9 / 1:2.6 90mm f/2.8 Elmarit-R II + 90mm f/2 Summicron-R infinity / 0.7m Type 3 - 161x241 / 72x108 mm Object Field - 1.66 dioptric – 1:6.7 / 1:3.0 100mm f/4 Macro-Elmar-R infinity / 0.6m Type 4 - 323x484 / 61x92 mm Object Field - 0.75 dioptric – 1:13.0/1:2.5 Type 3 - 145x218 / 48x72 mm Object Field - 1.66 dioptric – 1:6.0 / 1:2.0 100mm f/4 Macro-Elmar-R with Macro-Adapter-Rinfinity / 0.6m Type 4 - 63x94 / 34x51 mm Object Field - 0.75 dioptric – 1:2.6 / 1:1.4 Type 3 - 49x43 / 29x44 mm Object Field - 1.66 dioptric – 1:2.0 / 1:1.2 135mm f/2.8 Elmarit-R II infinity / 1.5m Type 4 - 237x355 / 106x159 mm Object Field-0.75 dioptric – 1:9.9 / 1:4.4 Type 3 - 107x160 / 66x99 mm Object Field - 1.66 dioptric – 1:4.5 / 1:2.8 180mm f/4 Elmar-R infinity / 1.8m Type 4 - 176x267 / 80x120 mm Object Field-0.75 dioptric – 1:7.4 / 1:3.3 Type 3 - 80x120 / 48x72 mm Object Field - 1.66 dioptric – 1:3.3 / 1:2.0 75-200mm f/4.5 Vario Elmar R at 75 mminfinity Type 4 - 414x621 mm Object Field - 0.75 dioptric – 1:17.3 Type 3 - 187x281 mm Object Field - 1.66 dioptric – 1:7.8 75-200mm f/4.5 Vario Elmar R at 200 mm 1.2m Type 4 - 62x93 mm Object Field - 0.75 dioptric – 1:2.6 Type 3 - 41x62 mm Object Field - 1.66 dioptric – 1:1.7 80-200mm f/4.5 Vario Elmar R at 80 mminfinity Type 4 - 392x588 mm Object Field - 0.75 dioptric – 1:16.3 Type 3 - 177x266 mm Object Field - 1.66 dioptric – 1:7.4 80-200mm f/4.5 Vario Elmar R at 200mm1.8m Type 4 - 83x125 mm Object Field - 0.75 dioptric – 1:3.5 Type 3 - 50x75 mm Object Field - 1.66 dioptric – 1:2.1