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Had to do a few quick & dirty street tests with both lenses side by side- the "regular" Summilux 50 ASPH (my version is 11892) and the "Black Chrome" special-edition-becoming-regular-edition Summilux 50 ASPH (11688). Rumor out there in several forums has it, the latter (Black Chrome rehoused) lens is somehow sharper, although even Leica themselves claim both have exactly the same glass. All comparisons were done WIDE OPEN, where the true resolving character of the lens is nested to show differences. All tests done on M10-P Reporter. TL;DR: The lenses are EXACTLY the same, identical sharpness, identical chromatic aberration, identical flares etc. Anyone claiming otherwise must have had a bad copy of his original lux 50 ASPH when comparing the two against each other.
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We already have a very extensive 'Mandler Magic' topic, but as much I am keen on Mandler's signature look and his contribution to the "Leica glow", there is another very distinguished gentleman in the 'House of Leica' that as a leader of Leica's optical design team since 2002 gave us a bunch of new high performance M-Lenses and pushed the terms FLE, ASPH and APO towards modern Leica perfection. He was the guy that had the balls to say Dr. Mandler's 75mm Summilux 1.4 was his *least* favorite design and went on to "Make Summilux great again" - all the way down to 21mm. Show us some of the "clinical look" of the Peter Karbe magic and do tell what lens he designed is your favorite...
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WIDE OPEN ONLY! Please post the images of the amazing original Summilux 50/1.4 ASPH at Peter Karbe's favorite f-stop: wide open.
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This awesome 21mm lens with f/1.4 f-stop totally deserves its own thread. The popularity of fast wide M lenses among Leica photographers seems to drop as soon as one drifts away from the optical viewfinder lines of the eternal 28mm / 35mm / 50mm trinity. Leica even went as far as to discontinue its entire 24mm M line of lenses at some point in 2020, including the precious Summilux 24. Yet for reportage, conventions, events, concerts, wedding receptions and people photography, a fast wide angle is usually priceless. What the Summilux 21 f/1.4 offers over other slower (f/1.8 to f/3.4) lenses from the 21mm scuderia (there are not many for the M, although Voigtlander and TTArtisan offer direct competition with same or very similar f-stop) is the incredible separation of the subject from the background, an amazing feature for a wide angle lens. The 21 lux is of course a Karbe masterpiece, Erwin Puts even said in one of his articles that "If you compare the 1.4/21 with the 0.95/50mm you see comparable quality." Please post your images and share your experience with the 21 lux - everything from series VIII/8 filters and other adapted filter solutions to your experience with this light beast in the field and on assignments, preferrably wide open. This is NOT a SEM thread, but a comparison between the two is OK.
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As Leica increasingly rolls out new lens designs that focus closer than 0.7m, I figured it would be a good time to start a thread featuring images taken with these lenses. Please upload photos taken with Leica-branded M lenses with a native minimum focusing distances less than 0.7m (e.g. 35 Lux FLE II, 50 Lux Asph II, 35 APO, etc.). Images featured here should be taken at a distance less than 0.7m. Please let us know what lens you used! I'll start us off with a few taken with the 50 Lux Asph II with an M10
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I have recently purchased a used 75mm Summilux f/1.4 which has an issue with back focusing. I did some tests today, and from minimum focusing distance to about 1.5 meters, the focus is very good. Then the back focusing is more and more visible at longer distances. At 2 meters the focus is about 5 cm behind, and at 3 meters it back focuses maybe 30 cm. I can't see any difference at different apertures. What is the best thing to do? Send it to Leica for an adjustment? Do they need the camera as well? (hope not). Or should I just find a way to live with it, e.g. try to remember how much nearer I have to focus at different distances? I have planned to buy a Visoflex, but currently I can't afford it.
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Hi everyone, I just purchased this lens to shoot on both film and digital, I read forum posts and reviews online, but there's way more information on the V2 / V3 than the V1, which makes sense since this lens only lasted two years so not a lot of people out there actually using it I guess? I mostly bought this lens to shoot portraits and complement my favorite lens of all time, the summicron 35mm 8 elements (also a v1 lens :p). I tried the 50mm summilux asph and pre-asph v2/v3 but didn't enjoy the rendering of the pre-asph v2/v3 that much, nor the size of the asph. I think I've tried all 50s that Leica has made, and my favorite is the first Summicron collapsible, so by now I guess you can figure out I really like Leica's rendering from the 50s (and it also seems I have a thing for v1 lenses...) What do you think of this lens if you own it or have used one before? How's the performance at F1.4~F2, and also a bit closed down at F4~F8? Do you still shoot with it nowadays? If so, would love to hear your thoughts on it Thanks and to a 2020 with lots of great memories to be captured!
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The Karbe Lux masterpiece is finally getting a facelift. 11 blades, 45cm close focus, rumored performance tweaks, same ol’ price. (Rumor has it it will be announced next week).
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Hood fitting problem with 50mm SX black chrome (11688)
Winedemonium posted a topic in Leica M Lenses
I just got my black chrome 50mm Summilux ASPH (11688). As a number of people who have received their lens have pointed out in this thread http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/242441-new-35-cron-and-50-lux-available-in-black-chrome/, the hood won't fit over numerous E43 filters people have tried. I tried with my Carl Zeiss E43 UVa filter, which attaches to the lens just fine, and in this case the hood also won't fit. I thought I would illustrate the problem for two reasons: 1. As a warning, should this affect any purchase decisions. It would seem a normal E43 filter and the supplied hood cannot be used at the same time. But also... 2. to solicit advice from people less mechanically-challenged than me! Perhaps I'm just not doing this right, and there is actually a solution. Please help! Okay, here are the pictures to illustrate this problem - Note the female groove at the top of the lens barrel. The hood has squeeze tabs to pull these grips flush with the lens. The hood has a male groove that stops the hood being lowered any further than this groove. Releasing the tabs moves the grips back out and they clamp onto the female groove on the lens. Attaching this filter (and I presume many others) does not cause a problem with the overall circumference to clear. This one is perfectly flush with the lens barrel. Here is the hood affixed without the filter. Note the height. Here is the hood affixed with the filter. The extra height created by the filter prevents the grips from reaching the female groove on the lens barrel. It has no grip at all really and would come off at the slightest bump. The issue then is one of height. I'm not sure if any filter will be thin enough to avoid this problem. Thoughts...? What am I missing here?
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I have recently got my 75mm Summilux back from service because of back focusing. It is a bit better, but still far from perfect. At a distance of one meter, the focus is very good. But at three meters the focus is about 10 cm behind. And the back focusing increases even more at longer distances. Is this a well known problem for this lens? Shouldn't it be possible to get a better result, or is a visoflex the only safe alternative for accurate focus? I will mainly use this lens wide open. Would it be easier to calibrate it for f/1.4 only, instad of all apertures? Do I have to pay for another service if I am not satisfied?
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In der Sendung des ZDF, Markus Lanz - Amerika ungeschminkt, Do, 27.10.2016, 23:15 verwendete Markus Lanz eine Leica M mit Summilux. https://www.zdf.de/gesellschaft/markus-lanz/markus-lanz-amerika-ungeschminkt-108.html
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Traveling around France with one lens: Summilux 50mm
Julius Yls posted a topic in Landscape & Travel
Hi All, I am sharing my short article few years back when I traveled around France for a month just carrying one body (ME) and one lens (50mm Summilux). It was a regret decision for the fist 1 week but I am enjoying the thrill after that :D. I wonder if you guys have the same experience with just relying on 1 lens for your long trip. https://juliusyls.com/blog/2019/9/11/traveling-around-france-with-50mm-lens-hnglr
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I do own all the lenses tested side by side in this video and would 100% agree with Ted Forbes' comparison and summary - The dearly recommended one is the
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Cleaning my archives & found the legendary FoMag Second Hand Guide (distributed by the popular German magazine Foto Magazin) from exactly 20 years ago (August 2002). Adding the facsimile of the relevant pages 😉 that will surely be of interest in comparison to 2022. All prices are in euros.
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I'm looking to trade up my 35mm Summicron ASPH to a Summilux for my M6. I shoot only film and so I've been craving a slightly faster lens that'll go well with slow film. After some research, I'm torn between all the different types of Summilux's: - Pre-ASPH/Classic (cheaper, prone to flare, prone to focus shift, softer on the edges, and has the classic Leica glow/rendition) - Aspherical (super expensive, a non-option for me) - ASPH (a little cheaper than the FLE, still prone to focus shift, sharper than the Pre-ASPH, still has the classic Leica glow/rendition - not as much as Pre-ASPH though) - ASPH FLE (expensive, no focus shift, really sharp, lots of contrast, more modern Leica look) I'm leaning towards the ASPH and ASPH FLE, and the only reason why I'm leaning towards the ASPH FLE was that the focus shift is mostly eliminated with the floating lens element. However, I kind of like the classic Leica look that the regular ASPH has. I've also read places that focus shift is less prominent in film cameras. Is that really true? Should I just spring for the FLE version?
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Or have they secretly improved the 35m Summilux formula? Or maybe it's a curvature of field thing? (on an M9) https://www.lemondedelaphoto.com/Le-pique,5007.html (on an M11) https://www.ephotozine.com/article/leica-summilux-m-35mm-f-1-4-asph-lens-review-35877/performance -
Just want to share my experience within the last couple of years of buying brand new leica lenses, and the poor workmanship that came with them. I bought my lenses from a few different online / local Leica dealers, I won't mention their names because I don't know if they want to be mentioned or not, but the service they've provided were exceptional. Anyway, here it goes. In late 2020, I decided to purchase a brand new copy of the mighty 28mm Summilux ASPH, and it was such an incredible lens to shoot with. But what I also noticed is a paint chip on the lens. It was not acceptable for a new product to have such defect, let alone an $8000 lens. So I exchanged it for another, only to find a different issue on the lens, coating scartches. I tried to convince myself to live with it because the store doesn't have so many of these expensive lenses in stock, I had to wait a long time for the second one. But after sleeping on the issue, I couldn't justify spending that amount of money on a brand new lens that came with coating scratches, I took it back to the store. And the sales person was apologetic and promptly ordered another in for me. And I settled with the last one because it had no coating scratch, but it focuses past infinity lol(the other ones didn't have this issue), I didn't care about that because I mainly use it for close to mid distance, I considered myself lucky by then. Soon after that I bought another 35mm Summilux ASPH FLE(I had one before but sold it, and soon regretted my decision), there's a big piece of dust in the middle of the lens, and again with some coating scratches. But this was a more popular lens, so it wasn't too difficult to find a "decent" copy without scratches, I only exchanged once. At this point, I really started to believe getting a decent copy of Leica lens is not an easy task, and I wanted to give up on the brand all together. So I started buying like new used copies on Ebay, and I got the 35mm Summicron asph I, no coating scratch, no dings, spot on focus at infinity. Produced in 2015. A few days ago I decided to purchase a brand new 50mm Summilux ASPH, and upon opening the box, I knew that the situation is not getting any better, smears, smudges, and what seems like the familiar coating scratches(could be smears, didn't try to clean them) on both front and rear element. Returned, and got lens That's all I wanted to share here, and my goal is not to bash Leica or promote some kind of hate, and I genuinely hope that I had the worst luck, and got all these lemons. Because I love Leica M cameras and lenses, they are exceptionally designed, optically and mechanically. However, it has appeared to me that the execution of lens assembly at Leica is really careless to say the least. And I've never had any of these issues with my Voigtlander lenses, which often cost way less than its Leica counterpart. If anyone had a similar experience as I had, please share it, I want to hear your story and hopefully it could bring to Leica's attention.
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Most of us seem to be photographers as well as collectors. Show me your favorite lenses, old and new alike. I like the Noctilux range for the extreme apertures, but I prefer the Summilux range for the best speed:size/weight ratio. Here’s a Summilux gathering of 21, 24, 28, 35, 50 and 75mm. All in black.
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Guys, sharing my mini visual travel of Annecy, France. Taken with Leica ME and 50mm Summilux. Hope you all enjoy it https://juliusyls.com/blog/2021/6/6/annecy
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Shots of Amsterdam, with Leica ME & 50mm Summilux.
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From the album: SWISS BLACK/WHITE
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Hi Guys, Am fairly new to Leica (6 months in) and I would like to seek your advice on which 35mm lens to get. I currently use a M240 body with a 60mm F1.2 Konica Hexanon and a 50mm Summicron APO. I am looking to add a 35mm lens to compliment my existing collection (and will be looking at add a 28mm Elmarit when the new one releases end of the month). I am considering the follow: 35 Summilux Pre-ASPH 35 Summicron Pre-ASPH Version 1 35 Summicron Pre-ASPH Version 4 35 Summicron ASPH (2016 edition) After doing some extensive research, I feel like the 3 Pre-ASPH lens may be a better compliment as it is softer / has more of a leica glow (since my 50mm APO and the 28mm Elmarit are both bitingly sharp)? I was originally going to just get a 28 and 50 and NOT the 35 since it seems to be too close to the other 2 focal lengths, so I am now thinking maybe getting something with more of a unique characteristic). Just wondering what all your thoughts are and why you think so? Your kind assistance is very much appreciated. Thank you. Best Regards, J
