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    Forum Update Coming October 8th – 10th

    Forgive me if this has been raised before, but I don't see anywhere a counter that shows the number of views for threads — only a counter for the number of posts. It's a basic piece of useful information that I would assume a forum upgrade would not eliminate. Any strong reason to leave it out by choice? _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram
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    which film M for pro-use?

    For a year, I've been alternating in "binges" of several months between shooting an M10 and and an M6 and M3. That works for me in terms of the opposite shutter dial directions. But whenever I've switched from one system to the other on a particular day, it's a nuisance — and that's for street photography where I can consider any particular shoot a trivial activity, not for a wedding where one has a moral undertaking to clients that are counting on your coming through with what they are counting. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram
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    what is displayed in the viewfinder with M10 and M10-P

    @adan Good explanation! As I've always shot both film and digital Leica-M cameras in manual mode and have never used A-mode or EC, I didn't understand the problem discussed in this thread until I read your post. I've always thought that exposing manually is the most practical, whether it's to expose digital, or slide film for the highlights, and negative film for the shadows — particularly if you shoot both digital and film Leicas: much less chance of confusing what you want to do, i.e., expose for the highlights or the shadows. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram
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    which film M for pro-use?

    dkmoore - Great but, come now, I explained clearly and carefully that 'When I say, blithely, that I'm more likely to be friends with someone who is a client of Heiko's, it's only musing on a perceived probability that could easily be wrong, for people who "like art" don't necessarily make better friends, nor are necessarily more interesting people. Also, I don't mean any reflection on you one way and on Heiko in another way.' No reason to twist and distort. Tiresome. But I'm glad you think you "celebrate differing opinions and personalities rather than writing people off", despite showing the opposite in what you write here. "Less than human"? _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram
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    M10 M-D

    If the on/off switch is really the function of the advance lever — Tell me it ain't so! — then it would be an embarrassment for Leica. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram
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    which film M for pro-use?

    Steve - I'm not a professional photographer, nor have I ever photographed a wedding. When I say, blithely, that I'm more likely to be friends with someone who is a client of Heiko's, it's only musing on a perceived probability that could easily be wrong, for people who "like art" don't necessarily make better friends, nor are necessarily more interesting people. Also, I don't mean any reflection on you one way and on Heiko in another way. We're only expressing opinions. However, I don't think that photographic art from many decades ago will necessarily look dated. Think of Dr Paul Wolff, who published books to popularize Leica photography in the thirties and forties —even his best pictures are eminently forgettable. Not Robert Frank's, though — he is an artist. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram
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    which film M for pro-use?

    Pretty much the reasons that I went back a year ago to shooting film (Tri-X and Portra 400) occasionally — and digitalizing using a Leitz BEOON stand + Focotar-2 50mm + M10. Handling the M6 and M3 is more fun than the M10. The results are more contingent, and sometimes having a look that I would not easily have gotten with digital. Also, no worries about highlight rendition in harsh, tropical sun. But the digitalization is obviously a pain...Do you plan to print digitally or in the darkroom? I'd be interested in hearing how you find doing the weddings on film. I assume you'll eventually have something on your blog about it. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhwereman Instagram
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    which film M for pro-use?

    Steve - I think you're talking about a completely different market than the one Heiko is addressing. The people who want all the 150-200 guests in the pictures wouldn't have Heiko do their weddings, and vice versa. However, I don't see the point of the approach you prefer: in 40-50 years the people looking at the pictures won't know who all the grinning faces are — unless there is text identifying each individual by name and relationship to the bride and groom. Though I must admit my bias: I don't think I'd be interested in the type of people who want what you suggest — not likely to be my friends: my bias, as I said. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram
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    Exposing for Highlights

    mkenaylor - I don't think that the problem is the dynamic range of the M10. Rather, it seems to me, that the M10 is boosting contrast in a way that blows out or exaggerates the highlights — this presumably is caused by the processing that Leica applies to the M10 DNG files. I would guess that changing this so that the camera would produce flatter DNG files, with less contrast, the way the Leica SL or the Sony A7rIII does would solve the problem. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram
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    Exposing for Highlights

    Also, da liegt der Hund begraben. Now we know what lies behind your ad nauseam posting of misdirected comparisons. Indeed, astrostl's post #30 reveals just one of them. But don't worry, I won't engage with you again. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram
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    Exposing for Highlights

    astrosi - Exactly. The tendency of the M10 to blow or exaggerate highlights is particularly troublesome when shooting into the light or even when there is strong sidelight: sure, I expose for the highlights and sometimes underexpose by 1-2+ stops and raise the shadows in Lightroom — but the M10 blows highlights, or renders highlights much lighter, than the M9 and the MM that I used to shoot with. Chaemono is not the only one who has directly compared files from the M10 to those of the Sony A7rIII. Others have concluded the opposite: that the Sonly is better in not overstating ISO values and in retaining details in highlights at the same exposure. In making comparisons, several people have suggested that it's pointless to match the exposure based on the same aperture and shutter speed because the M10 is overstating the ISO — and have found, by matching Raw histograms of identical scenes, the M10 exposes consistently at EVs less than the A7rIII — and, still, the M10 blows highlights when the A7rIII does not. This thread is about exposing for the highlights. Here is an example of the problem that I have with the M10: The other day I took a portrait in a café here in Chiang Mai. The soft morning light — overcast day in the rainy season — was coming straight into the lens, through a window, behind the subject, sitting in profile. I underexposed manually enough not to blow any highlights. In Lightroom, after lifting the shadows +48 and the exposure +0.4 and pulling back on highlights, reducing contrast as well as some burning and dodging, the light on the on the subject looks very good, but the road surface seen through the window still looks like a highlight rather than medium gray (Zone V). That's because of the M10's weird rendition of highlights, making the too light, particularly skewed when lit by backlight (coming straight into the lens). Even when the backlight is not that strong highlights are rendered much lighter than what they are — and that is true also problematic for sidelights. I'm not that fond of camera that is great for when the light comes from behind me. Now, despite already having spent a lot of time processing this particular picture, I can spend a lot more to get the view out the window looking somewhat what like I want it to be — but in many other shots, shot into the light or with strong sidelight, the M10's rendering of highlights just cannot be adequately repaired. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram
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    which film M for pro-use?

    Heiko - I just looked at everything on your website — everything because I couldn't take my eyes way. Fantastic photography. Inspirational! Great work and great marketing: in this way you are sure to get the clients you want and the bride is happy and you get to do the work you like. By the way, I like how you describe your and Cati's background. I also read your blog and the articles on the M9 and the Sony digital cameras that you've used. Considering the results you've been getting with digital cameras why do you want to shoot weddings with film, considering the added burden of working with scans, even if the film is scanned or digitalized by a lab? Are you seeking any difference in the look of the images? I like the high contrast and how you handle highlights, potentially the weakest aspect of digital cameras. This point is of interest to me because, these days, I am becoming annoyed with the tendency of the M10 to blow or exaggerate highlights, particularly when shooting into the light or even when there is strong sidelight: sure, I expose for the highlights and sometimes underexpose by 1-2+ stops and raise the shadows in Lightroom — but the M10 blows highlights, or renders highlights much lighter, than the M9 and the MM that I used to shoot with. For this reason I've been thinking of selling my M10, but looking at your work I started thinking about how sometimes even blown highlights can be used effectively in high contrast M10 images — that I should go further in this direction. Still, I like the highlight rendition of the M9 much better than that of the M10. Any views on this highlight issue? (If you feel that this would sidetrack the purpose of your thread, please send me a personal message on this.) _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram
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    what is displayed in the viewfinder with M10 and M10-P

    It's unfortunate that it's so difficult to discuss a serious issue about the M10 on LUF — as affirmed by post #30 above. While there may be many threads where people have attempted to raise these issues, the protective posture towards Leica is so overwhelming that I haven't seen any threads that ended up anywhere useful... _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram
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    what is displayed in the viewfinder with M10 and M10-P

    I've never shot the M10 at ISO 100, so my issues don't relate to that. The problematic way it deals with highlights — and its weird sensitometry — were evident in the first few shots I took with it — into the light, on a sunny day in Paris, not even in the bright and harsh tropical light that I mostly shoot in. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram
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    what is displayed in the viewfinder with M10 and M10-P

    The EVF display issue on the M10 discussed here has never bothered me because I always use manual exposure, and don't set any exposure compensation. Essentially, I expose for the highlights the way I would with transparency film. The trouble I have with the M10 is the ease with which it blows highlights whenever there is any bright light in the frame (I don't mean specular highlights), particularly when shooting into the light — but also the way it exaggerates the highlights from bright sidelight, much more so than the M9 or MM. That means that often I have to underexpose by 1-2+ stops and lift the shadows in post-processing: this, in itself, is not a problem because it's easy to lift the shadows in post-processing. The real problem I find with the M10 is the unpredictability of the degree to which you have to underexpose depending on various factors, which are difficult to perceive or predict, including how bright the highlights are, the direction they come from (perhaps), and the ISO used. In another thread, @adan has called this issue the weird sensitometry of the M10. For example, because the M10 overstates higher ISOs, sometimes you have to use a higher ISO than you would with the M9 or MM but, then, have to underexpose "excessively" for the highlights — the weirdness includes how these factors work against each other: it's difficult to judge the degree to which you need to underexpose. Of course, when shooting still life or landscape you can take test shots; but in the dynamic situations of street photography, when you're changing rapidly between light coming from all directions as you turn around, you end up underexposing by so much that you end up having to do more selecting burning and dodging than is "reasonable" (compared to the M9 or MM). Generally, I like shooting into the light and the weird sensitometry has begun to annoy me enough to start considering selling this camera. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram
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