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  1. I was surprised .... the seller is a woman for (Third_Man_Cameras) Hmmmmm ??? ...... I emailed the seller and I told her that there is plenty of doubt on some forums concerning the lens and its authenticity. I asked her how she knew it was legitimate and if she had other items coming soon. This was her reply ....... "Hello, yes I know that there are plenty of skeptics. It's not fake. I have been selling on eBay since 1999, I have perfect feedback and take pride in keeping it that way. I don't believe a fake Leica lens would look like the one Im selling, nor would it get much attent
  2. Thank You Sabears .... you continuously have been so helpful and friendly. A grand fellow !! But unfortunately I believe the lens has gotten a bit too pricy for me ..... auction has reached $8100 USD ...... This will be fun to watch though. Regards
  3. jc_braconi , I greatly value your opinion as well as the others on the forum. Please tell me what convinces you that it is a forgery. And also, Sabears - who do I contact at Leica for information ?? Many Thanks to you all & Merry Christmas (I am taking a five minute break from building the biggest Lego set that was ever made with my 5 year old boy)
  4. If a buyer doesn't like the item they purchased they simply just have to state that the description was wrong. I sold a lens on eBay years ago that I considered to have perfect glass. The buyer ended up wanting to send the item back to me because he said that there was haze in the lens. I got the lens back and I said I couldn't see any haze .... The buyer told me that I had to shine a very bright LED flashlight through the lens to see the haze ... Seemed ridiculous to me ... But I ended up shining a light through the lens and when I did I could see plenty of dust and a bit of haze. I don't bel
  5. Yes, I noticed those same things Chris. The missing paint on the infinity stop is the most damaging clue that the lens may be a fake. But I have seen Leica painted items lose there paint in all sorts of fashions.The bayonet is brass with no chrome ... which is not uncommon ( sabears taught me that ) ..... The tube does show signs of ware in the pictures .... you have to click on them to see the larger size photo. I am very interested in purchasing the lens on eBay ...... so I have been really looking hard at it. I have a few e39 black filters already and to give the seller the benefit of doubt
  6. So mnutzer, are you saying that rare Leica items that end up on eBay are not to be taken seriously, or that the seller has made a poor choice by selling on ebay. Sounds like your saying that .... "if its on eBay .... then there is something wrong" Just clarifying ....
  7. Ok ... so here is my newb question of the week. Can the Black Summicron Collapsible that's on ebay be sourced at all? I mean is there any way to track when the special order was placed or the details of the order. Basically is there any way to verify if it was actually painted by Leica for a special order?
  8. I have been doing some research and looks like it was special order only in black. Westlicht sold one a few years back (see photo) 96: LEICA: M3 black paint : Lot 96
  9. I am obsessed with Leica items that were painted black. I like this lens ..... any advise or thoughts from the professionals. Thanks Leica Summicron M 5cm F2 Black Very RARE M3 M2 M4 M6 M7 M8 M9 | eBay
  10. Here is the lens I want sourced .... I am in love with the look of the brass bayonet. Don't ask me why. Leica Summilux M 50mm F1 4 Black with Brass Bayonet M3 M2 M4 M6 M7 M8 M9 799429118914 | eBay
  11. I am fairly new to all this .... but please tell me about this sourcing. How do I get in on this. I am very interested in a black summilux on ebay right now but I want to be sure its the real deal. It looks great and has paperwork to match it. But im now curious as to other ways to verify its authenticity.
  12. Sabears .... I truly do appreciate you ... You have taught me so much and I am truly grateful to you for tolerating my questions. It must get annoying .... having guys like me bother you for information, information and then some more information. I Thank you once again. Sail
  13. Thank you very much .... I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with me Sabears ...... One more question please .... did they sell these bare brass lenses individually or did they only come with a black painted M camera ?? Many Thanks
  14. Please good Sir ......... What is the truth? Kind Regards
  15. OK .... Well I can see I didn't set the world on fire with this question .... haha !! I did hear from another site that the plain brass backings were needed because they were not shiny like chrome is, and during wartime photography the lenses would be hard for the enemy to spot the photographer ...... that's does sound like a good idea but I don't know if that was Leica's intent. Can anyone please add to this post. Many Thanks !!! Seriously .... Thanks !
  16. I am curious as to what reason Leica made Summilux's and Summicron's with the brass bayonet chromed and then some have no chrome and just are bare brass. What purpose does this serve? I also have seen the Leica M body caps with Chrome backside and then some with bare brass backing. Maybe its useless information .... but Im really interested. Thanks
  17. Dunk .... Thank you so much for explaining what to look for. I don't have photos of the camera yet .... I am going to look at the camera soon. The gentleman who is selling it is an older man who lives far from me .... So I really want to know what to look for when I go there. If it is a real black double stroke, than I think 6,000 may be a good price .... I just saw on eBay a double stroke in black that sold for $21,211. What exactly are "tram lines" ??? Are they marks made by sandpaper ?? Many thanks again to you all ....
  18. Yes .... Good points. The seller lives too far from me. He is an older gentleman. I do not have any photos of the camera he is trying to sell me. He is asking $6000 usd ...... I believe I will ask him to take the responsibility of having the camera verified before I am willing to purchase it. Thanks again to you all.
  19. Can anyone direct me to one of these "skilled and knowledged professionals" .... so I can ask him to give me some more detailed info as to what to look for before I buy this camera .... I dont want to buy the camera until Im sure its a real Leica paint job. And once again I cant thank you all enough. You guys really all have been so kind and helpful .... many other forums chase you off with sarcastic comments and ridicule. I appreciate you all !!
  20. Thanks to all three of you. I actually got a reply from Leica USA ....... According to the reply, (below) there is no real way to verify if this M3 DS is authentic except to have it inspected by a professional. Id love to know what one of these professionals look for on the camera to tell if its authentic. Any ideas what I can look for myself? Here is the reply from Leica: Here is the answer of a top specialist in such questions: The listings of serial numbers published by Leica Camera (formerly Leitz Wetzlar) do refer to the factory shipping records. Of course the shipping depar
  21. Hello again .... Thanks for all the great info .... very helpful. The serial number is 899703 .... Do you have a way to look that serial number up? Thanks again
  22. Hello friends, I am new to the forum. I have heard you all are very friendly and helpful here. I thank you in advance. I am interested in purchasing a Leica M3 original black paint. I have found one for sale and when I verify the serial number using your wiki site it shows this following information ..... (898001-903000 Leica M3 (black+chrom-ds}1957 5000) ...... So Im assuming that this serial batch has Chrome M3's and Black M3's produced in the same batch. So my question is .... how do I know that this Black M3 really isn't a Chrome M3 that has been painted black. Is there any more detailed
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