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  1. Bob Andersson

    Leica SL2- ? L Alliance

    Hi Chaemono, Hi bags27, Thank you both. I'd also heard the rumour of the May Photokina and yes, I think it's very likely I'll be ordering the 16-35mm early, pennies permitting. Probably in the New Year although I'm not entirely comfortable about doing so. Too many echoes of empty supermarket shelves and panic buying! 🤔 Bob.
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    Leica SL2- ? L Alliance

    Hi folks, The L-alliance made me look afresh at the SL and I realised that with the APO-Summicron-SL 75 f/2 ASPH and Super-Vario-Elmar-SL 16–35 f/3.5–4.5 ASPH glass I might be a customer so I got down to my local Leica store for a fondle. I love the unfussy ergonomics of the SL, in stark contrast to what I've seen of the S1/S1R, but this late into the product cycle I can wait for the update that Dr. Kaufmann has already mentioned, even if I have to wait a year! I suspect it will come quicker than that but in any event it'll give me time to save my pennies. Personally 24 MP is enough for my needs so I'm hoping that a refresh just concentrates on keeping all that's great about the SL while taking advantage of whatever advances in sensor and memory card design allow coupled with the Maestro III but that's for the unknown, to anyone outside Leica, future. My worry is that possible demand for Leica glass from future S1R owners might translate into availability issues! Bob.
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    Reviews

    . Sean Reid - Some Thoughts On The Leica S: https://luminous-landscape.com/some-thoughts-on-the-leica-sl/ For those of us who don't subscribe...
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    Should the M9 successor have a Hybrid Viewfinder

    . Hmm. Having finally seen the Fujifilm X100's hybrid viewfinder in action my personal reaction is that the full EVF mode is horrible, giving me a feeling of complete disconnection from the scene being photographed. Using it in optical mode with the hybrid aspect just being used to superimpose frame lines and shooting information worked a lot better but I've definitely come away from the experience believing that a full-on hybrid viewfinder should be kept as far away from a Leica rangefinder as possible unless the technology gets a lot, and by a lot I actually mean hugely, better and maybe not even then! Bob. P.S. Apologies for resurrecting this thread but I wanted to share my experience and effectively vindicate the views of a number of contributions to the thread which were, as it turns out, quite rightly IMHO very suspicious about the appropriateness of a hybrid viewfinder.
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    First Hybrid Viewfinder?

    At the risk of promoting my own thread we had a related discussion at Should the M9 successor have a Hybrid Viewfinder. Bob.
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    Should the M9 successor have a Hybrid Viewfinder

    Whoops, can't edit the original typo but I should, of course, have written "focus confirmation" and not "AF confirmation". Bob.
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    Should the M9 successor have a Hybrid Viewfinder

    Hi Henning, That's truly interesting and very much appreciated feedback from a primary source. I'm fascinated that Stefan is indicating that the R-lens solution may be via an M-body plus an adaptor and that he hasn't ruled out incorporating auto-diaphragm functionality for those lenses. My assumption is that such an R-lens solution would have to incorporate live view and it would also benefit from contrast based AF confirmation but I haven't followed the R-system debate very closely I'm afraid. On a personal note I'll echo your wish that the M10 should not be primarily EVF and that's been pretty much the consensus of this thread. But if the EVF part of a hybrid viewfinder can be made truly invisible until switched on then I don't think many have objected strongly. And thanks for that indication of 2012 - I'll not hold my breath but guess when I'm 60! Bob.
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    Should the M9 successor have a Hybrid Viewfinder

    Goodness, I felt rather like a motorist who's been pulled over for doing 31 mph in a 30 mh zone when I read that. But I dutifully held off from further comment until the official translation was available as I was always brought up to respect the Old Bill. The reason I then waited some more was that, in contrast to the German version which was featured on the Blog the English version was placed here in the Customer section so I was looking in the wrong place. The relevant part to this thread reads: The first paragraph effectively says no live view so no hybrid viewfinder. The second paragraph goes on to say that Leica prefers rangefinder focussing (no surprise there) and then just restates the correlation of CMOS with Live View and offers that Leica could use CMOS in future. So what's the likelihood of Leica using a CMOS sensor in a future M-body? They've shown no particular inclination to move away from CCD that I've seen but maybe I've missed something? Of course CMOS may be imposed at some stage if a suitable CCD can't be sourced or a suitable CMOS sensor is available at a cheaper price and at that point maybe hybrid viewfinder technology may be possible within the constraints we've discussed. Whether this will be a priority for Leica is something they are keeping close to their chests. With luck the M10 should be available by the time I'm 60 (not too long now!) and I hope I can be tempted. I want that camera to be traditional "M" but, as the attentive reader has no doubt already deduced, I'd like the extra functionality of a hybrid viewfinder to be available on demand. Wish me luck. Bob.
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    Should the M9 successor have a Hybrid Viewfinder

    Hi folks, With the Question Time blog (Googlish) now released I suggest this thread has now run its course. If I understand the translation correctly (sorry, I have no German) then a CMOS sensor is not to be expected in the next generation digital M and without that a hybrid viewfinder ain't going to happen. Thanks to all for an interesting discussion. I'm not at all convinced by the idea that the Fujifilm FinePix X100 is an "advertisement" for the X1 but at least the M-system is an ecological niche that the major players are unlikely to want to browse in. Unless Fuji goes mad and releases an X200 with an M-mount. Maybe the hybrid viewfinder concept will find a place in the mirrorless "digital solution for R lenses" but this section isn't the place for that discussion. Again, thanks to all. Bob.
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    Should the M9 successor have a Hybrid Viewfinder

    That would certainly be an option that a hybrid viewfinder could offer but I doubt you need a hybrid viewfinder to do this. We've already covered the virtual necessity, expressed by many contributors here, that for a hybrid viewfinder to even make it onto a short-list of innovations in a successor to the M9 the LCD portion should be totally invisible unless extra functionality is switched on. If that can be done then what is or is not present and how customisable it is is presumably just down to how Leica want to implement it. Bob.
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    Should the M9 successor have a Hybrid Viewfinder

    I'll echo the compliment back to you for your own thoughtful reply. We might not be exactly on the same page but that's life. Respect. Bob.
  12. Bob Andersson

    Should the M9 successor have a Hybrid Viewfinder

    Hi bill, I chose not to reply to your post here despite the fact that I found your use of a very large graphic about as subtle as a blow to the head with a very large heavy thing, contributed very little information in relation to its size and made me wonder why you felt the need to add it to what has been a very respectful conversation. But, and it's a big but, I totally respect your preference that Leica should not include a variant of the hybrid viewfinder in a future M body. I appreciate that there only a few ways you can say "No" but maybe what is effectively trying to shout louder isn't the best way to go? I say "shouting" in response to your posting large graphics, accusing other members of a lack of comprehension, suggesting that their own preferences for the future of the M-series are at the level of "tinker toys" or that they may be "whining". Pretty intemperate stuff. I started this thread (yes, I'm to blame) just to explore how or even if a hybrid viewfinder might add to the the M-system in the future. The consensus, if I'm reading it right, is very much along the lines of it having no place at all if it in any way changes the current viewfinder experience when you unbox the new camera and first press the shutter. Whether those like yourself, if I've interpreted your posts correctly, who don't even want others to have an option of extra functionality through the viewfinder, even though it might be totally invisible until enabled, should have their way is very much a matter for Leica at the end of the day. I'm no expert so if those that know about such things say there's no chance that a hybrid viewfinder can be made "invisible" in that way then I'm pretty sure it won't happen. But I will offer that the generally friendly exchange of ideas amongst forum members in this thread is in no way intended to, or likely to, threaten the future good sense of Leica as and when they design an M10 so you'll still have what you want. Or so I hope. Bob.
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    Should the M9 successor have a Hybrid Viewfinder

    Hi Paul, We agree. One thing that hadn't occurred to me until it was raised a few posts back is, adding your proviso that Leica could pull of the trick of hiding the extra features unless and until wanted, it would actually be possible to dispense with the rear LCD screen during normal use. Might please some and it would certainly simplify Luigi's life. Bob.
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    Should the M9 successor have a Hybrid Viewfinder

    Hi Paul, First time I've ever been accused of bumbling. The point to the discussion is that Fujifilm's implementation of a hybrid viewfinder is an innovation and that it may be applicable to the M-system without taking anything away from the current experience. On DSLR forums we often see the argument "I don't want video on my DSLR" as a mantra used to imply that DSLRs shouldn't have video at all. I have video on my 5D2, I've hardly ever used it and so wouldn't really miss it but it's presence doesn't stop that camera from producing class leading stills IQ. As a result I have no problem with it being there. Same deal potentially with hybrid viewfinders and rangefinders. If the technology can be applied in such a way that customers such as yourself aren't even aware that it's there (except perhaps that the frame lines are even more accurate) then surely you wouldn't argue against it? But, with that condition in place, if the addition of such technology allows more flexibility for those who want to use it that way or even allows Leica to continue to capture a greater share of new customers wouldn't that be a good thing? I guess a lot depends on how Leica expects to fill its order book in five and ten years time, something I'm sure Leica already knows and won't be sharing outside the company ever! If they are comfortable that the M9, or something virtually identical to it, will sell in sufficient quantity then fair enough: keep things just as they are. I'll perhaps concede that this discussion is pointless insofar as Leica is extremely unlikely to be reading it and using it to gauge customer reaction. But, even rapidly approaching my seventh decade on this planet, I still enjoy a little thoughtful speculation even if I have no power to make anything happen and I'd hope that most contributors approach this thread in that way as well. Bob.
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    Should the M9 successor have a Hybrid Viewfinder

    Hi Lars, I share some of your concerns about human evolution but on the subject of nuts so long as the trees keep it simple and only produce one type of nut per species we generally cope and sometimes we even learn that the nuts on a tree that is new to us taste nice. But one thing we tend not to do well is complicated, particularly in real time situations. Hence my suggestion that, if it can be incorporated, a hybrid viewfinder should essentially be invisible just overlaying the field lines and the simplest of shooting data as a default - essentially providing the current experience. Using the image field selector to quickly switch extra stuff on or off and/or switching to full EVF mode when the situation warranted it would seem a natural way forward and would definitely have the virtue of being simple. I guess it's down to the boffins (and bean counters) at Leica to decide if it's doable while retaining the rangefinder mechanism. If it is then I'm struggling to find a single reason why it shouldn't happen. Bob.
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