M9reno Posted February 18, 2014 Share #1 Posted February 18, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Does the Thambar share the same shade and front cap as the Hektor 73 1.9? I think the former has hood code named SHADE and the latter FGHOO, but they (and the corresponding cap) look identical in pictures. How rarely are these hood/cap combos to be found for sale? I may be in need of one for a Thambar, since I sacrificed buying a complete set in exchange for a... (slightly) less insane price for the lens alone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Hi M9reno, Take a look here Thambar Shade and Front Cap. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
M9reno Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share #2 Posted February 18, 2014 To clarify... I bought lens AND the special dot filter, so am only in need of front cap and hood. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 18, 2014 Share #3 Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Sorry.... they are definitely NOT interchangable ; just tried my hood+cap of Hektor on Thambar, which is, as yours, not complete with them (and bought it,as you, without them for the $ame rea$on... 20 years ago or so) : Thambar is wider... an infact, filter size is E48 vs. E42. So... find a universal E48 screw in hood ... and protect the lens with the spot filter (which prevents the usage of a screw in hood... no thread... but flare isn't an issue when you use a Thambar with the filter.... ) Edited February 18, 2014 by luigi bertolotti 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share #4 Posted February 18, 2014 Thank you, Luigi. I have just sent you a PM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted February 19, 2014 Share #5 Posted February 19, 2014 The Thambar genuine front cap fit on the Thambar sunshade and its internal dia. is 53.5 and it is too large for the lens itself. This cap is identical of the Telyt 4.5 / 200 sunshade. illustrated Thambar and Hektor : Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/222286-thambar-shade-and-front-cap/?do=findComment&comment=2535234'>More sharing options...
M9reno Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share #6 Posted February 19, 2014 Thank you. I had noticed a superficial resemblance, but of course you are right. Lager vol. II compares the two lenses side by side, with hoods on. I ended up buying the hood and cap combination separately, hoping to complete my "orphaned" Thambar. All in all, I might have saved some money. Now I just have to wait for them to arrive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted February 19, 2014 Share #7 Posted February 19, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Al, Congratulations on your purchase Al. My Thambar arrived yesterday, and I'm thrilled to bits with it. I managed to get out inbetween showers to try it out on my usual test motif - the garden shed! Without the centre filter it gives beautiful results with no 'doughnuts' in the out-of focus areas: I think it may be the filter that causes that. Even shot wide open, despite the softness of the image, all the lettering on the "Suttons Seeds" sign on the shed is legible. From my brief test, I cannot see the filter getting much use. Wonderful!! Susie 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted February 19, 2014 Hi Susie, I'm a sucker for that donut bokeh. Can't wait. Are you still on the lookout for the complete instructions? If so I found a copy that I can post on the other thread. Thanks for your post. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
machmaphoto Posted February 19, 2014 Share #9 Posted February 19, 2014 jc_braconi illustrated Thambar and Hektor. My question is concerning the Hektor 1,9/7,3cm. As I can see on the Photo your Hektor has the same inner issue as mine. I think it is the lost of black antireflecting colour at the corpus, now shining clear silvery with some very little black traces. I have arranged myself with the strange detoriation - but what do you think about this case. Where is the rest of the missing black colour ? CLA (but where and by whom ?) or ignore ? Thank you jc_braconi. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 19, 2014 Share #10 Posted February 19, 2014 My Hektor has the same silvery look inside... I am not so sure is a loss of some coating... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted February 20, 2014 Share #11 Posted February 20, 2014 You can unscrew the front lens element. Then you should see some sort of grey ridge on an inner lens element, which looks quite normal. I presume it's the cement to fix the element. With the magnification of the front element it looks completely different and weird. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
machmaphoto Posted February 20, 2014 Share #12 Posted February 20, 2014 Oh, thank you luigi bertolotti and uliwer. Now i can see, that my beloved Hektor 7,3 is not the only one with the silvery shine interior. I now feel better. (By the way: I think it is in my experience the most oustanding prewar leitz lens for painting with light and with smooth sharpness. Nor Emmermann nor Dr. Paul Wolff shows us more than one or two not so great or typical examples made with this lens. Why (until today) so underestimated ? Because pictorialism was already gone long before ? For me the digital ära could be a second chance for this Hektor - every f-stop has another rendering and it also seems me fine to work with it to make portraits from the range very oldfashioned until to normal sharpness.) But excuse me - talking about this Hektor I get very quickly off topic... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share #13 Posted February 21, 2014 Well, the 'legend' has arrived! After a short walk around the neighborhood this afternoon, I must say I am impressed, not least because of the versatility of this lens. Below, a 'painterly' portrait fully open with dot filter, as well as two street scenes, one fully open with filter on, the other stopped down to f/12.5 and filter off. The difference in contrast is astounding, and stopped down the lens still lives up to its promise of behaving as a 'normal' 90mm lens. Everything on M9 at ISO 500, unprocessed. Well, this Thambar promises years of challenge and fun! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/222286-thambar-shade-and-front-cap/?do=findComment&comment=2536606'>More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted February 21, 2014 Share #14 Posted February 21, 2014 My Hektor has the same silvery look inside... I am not so sure is a loss of some coating... +1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share #15 Posted February 22, 2014 Just posted some pictures taken today. Please see the Photo Forum under "Other". Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share #16 Posted February 22, 2014 ... And the link to those photos is: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/321816-out-about-mr-thambar.html#post2634855 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted February 24, 2014 Share #17 Posted February 24, 2014 IMHO it is not easy to use in modern concept, I appreciated this lens only on not close portraiture with romantic environment : flowers, scupltures, old monuments... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share #18 Posted February 24, 2014 Thank you, JC. On the photo thread (linked just above), I have just now put a post about how interesting these perceptions are to me. They seem largely historically determined. It is also interesting how *late* this lens appeared, in the mid 1930s, when the fuzzy aesthetic of Pictorialism was already in decline, or finished. I would like to know more about the original marketing decision at Letiz. Anyway, that's all in the other thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heinzkraft Posted February 24, 2014 Share #19 Posted February 24, 2014 I ve just noticed this thread. I have postet some pics today: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m-lenses/253049-view-through-older-glass-94.html#post2636528 thank you, m9reno 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share #20 Posted February 24, 2014 Excellent - I think you get closer than I do to the elusive ideal of "sharp softness" ! Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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