Pecole Posted September 26, 2010 Share #1 Posted September 26, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) The SOOZI-M - bayonet-mount Summicron 90 mm f/2 first version in the Fontenelle Collection was serialled 1580304 (1958), and complete with HMOOD removable hood and OQYGO special front cap. As evidence of it making part of the earliest production run, it has an aperture scale to f/16 only. We had a total of 24 screw- and bayonet-mount Summicrons in our collection, the earliest one being a screw-mount SOOZI numbered 1477025 and the last one a chrome BM with nº 3643901 (or was it the "25-079" included in our LHSA anniversary M6 set ?). About half the total came from Leitz Canada, and screw-mount ones were numbered - next to the one quoted above - 1651250, 1651918, 1653040, 1740093, 1743484 (these last three with traces of BM mount ring and "red ball" index) and 1817823. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/132389-fontenelle-archives-21-soozi/?do=findComment&comment=1452665'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 26, 2010 Posted September 26, 2010 Hi Pecole, Take a look here Fontenelle archives 21 : SOOZI. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
luigi bertolotti Posted September 26, 2010 Share #2 Posted September 26, 2010 Ah... Summicron 90 is one of the most intriguing items for collectors... time ago I saw for sale even one of the very first batch around 1.1xx.xxx number, and was tempted to buy (it had a very big price,,, ) : I remember that its HMOOD hood was slightly different from the one you depict above... it did not bear the "Summicron ... " engraving on the base ring, but on the large side (and it was a Wetzlar made item); together with the Summicron 35, is surely one of the Leitz lenses that has the highest number of variants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecole Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted September 26, 2010 Ah... Summicron 90 is one of the most intriguing items for collectors... time ago I saw for sale even one of the very first batch around 1.1xx.xxx number, and was tempted to buy (it had a very big price,,, ) : I remember that its HMOOD hood was slightly different from the one you depict above... it did not bear the "Summicron ... " engraving on the base ring, but on the large side (and it was a Wetzlar made item); together with the Summicron 35, is surely one of the Leitz lenses that has the highest number of variants. Hi, Luigi. The one you refer to is probably part of the very first - experimental? - batch of 12 made in Wetzlar in 1957 with a mount quite similar to the Summarex 85. And it was indeed worth a big price! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrapan Posted October 13, 2010 Share #4 Posted October 13, 2010 Hello Luigi, can you say some details about the price level of this first Summicron with the number 11xxxx. For me it is very interesting to know because I have such kind of lens. It was a family heiloom and I want to sell it. I have never seen this lens befor. Best regards Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 14, 2010 Share #5 Posted October 14, 2010 (edited) Hello Luigi, can you say some details about the price level of this first Summicron with the number 11xxxx. For me it is very interesting to know because I have such kind of lens. It was a family heiloom and I want to sell it. I have never seen this lens befor. Best regards It was 5 or 6 years ago, a European dealer (Leicashop, but I'm not 100% sure, could be even a German one, maybe) had for sale a SOOZI Wetzlar with the above numbering, and surely it was something around 4500 Euros (I remember surely 4xxx , not sure about the hundreds). A SOOZI 1.580.xxx was far sale at Leicashop, around 2001, at 3500 Euro about. Edited October 14, 2010 by luigi bertolotti Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrapan Posted October 14, 2010 Share #6 Posted October 14, 2010 Hi Luigi, thank you very much for this info. I have a lens with the number 11190xx. This is Made in Wetzlar. Best regards ULI Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 14, 2010 Share #7 Posted October 14, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Luigi,thank you very much for this info. I have a lens with the number 11190xx. This is Made in Wetzlar. Best regards ULI Wow !!! Is it a screw mount one ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 14, 2010 Share #8 Posted October 14, 2010 Wow !!! Is it a screw mount one ? Just fro completness... I remeber the above prices, but don't know if they were SOLD at that levels... anyway they disappeared from the sales' sites... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrapan Posted October 14, 2010 Share #9 Posted October 14, 2010 Wow !!! Is it a screw mount one ? No,it´s for the M series..regards Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 15, 2010 Share #10 Posted October 15, 2010 No,it´s for the M series..regards Well : rare anyway even if not as the screw mount Wetzlar SOOZI: if I remember well, Wetzlar made less than 50 of the bayonet SOOZI... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 15, 2010 Share #11 Posted October 15, 2010 It was 5 or 6 years ago, a European dealer (Leicashop, but I'm not 100% sure, could be even a German one, maybe) had for sale a SOOZI Wetzlar with the above numbering, and surely it was something around 4500 Euros (I remember surely 4xxx , not sure about the hundreds). A SOOZI 1.580.xxx was far sale at Leicashop, around 2001, at 3500 Euro about. ... A research on recent auctions shows that prices have significantly dropped... https://www.westlicht-auction.com/index.php?id=148837&acat=148837&offset=3&_ssl=off Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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