menos I M6 Posted September 17, 2015 Share #961 Posted September 17, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Very nice Dirk (and that's a brilliant pencil, btw) br Philip Thanks Philip - it's the Leica M of pencils really … and like with Leica M gear, once you used one, you can't stop using them and getting more of them ;-) It's a pity though that the company didn't make it :-( Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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assaf110 Posted October 5, 2015 Share #962 Posted October 5, 2015 Can you share the type?.. looking for a pencil myself, the M of pencils sounds good... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2015 Share #963 Posted October 5, 2015 Can you share the type?.. looking for a pencil myself, the M of pencils sounds good... http://www.rotring.com/en/mechanical-pencils/290-rotring-600-mechanical-pencil-3501178523096.html# Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted October 6, 2015 Share #964 Posted October 6, 2015 Can you share the type?.. looking for a pencil myself, the M of pencils sounds good... It is a German made rOtring 600 lead pencil. These are best bought on eBay or from collectors nowadays (they are not manufactured any more). http://www.rotring.com/en/mechanical-pencils/290-rotring-600-mechanical-pencil-3501178523096.html# Unfortunately the German rOtring company has been acquired (and shortly after closed) in the 1990's. This US website if from the now owners of the brand and patents, which offer similar looking pencils. They are unfortunately not the same ;-( There is a big cult around the original rOtring 600 pencils with second hand prices of German made originals soaring. For anyone who simply likes the design, these later productions offered new for a relatively low price are ok, real rOtring pencils they are not ;-( 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted October 6, 2015 Share #965 Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) For anyone who simply likes the design, these later productions offered new for a relatively low price are ok, real rOtring pencils they are not ;-( Presumably a contemporary Rotring 600 uses the same lead as a "made in Germany" example and draws the same lines or is it like the situation with Leica cameras where a brass-geared "adjusted-to-fit-build" M4 always takes better photographs than a steel-geared, made in Portugal, MP? As an aside, I don't know whether this tendency towards creating a cult around everyday objects and tools is some kind of modern competitive disease (the need to appear more discerning than the next person) or simply a symptom of Western decadence (as if these one-time objects of usefulness have become some kind of golden calf)? In admiring a black paint M4 or something like that I'm not immune from it myself but I'm increasingly finding the focus on the tool rather than the application of it (admiring the craftsmanship of the brushes and the exotic quality of the oil paint rather than admiring the art) rather tiresome. Edited October 6, 2015 by wattsy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted October 6, 2015 Share #966 Posted October 6, 2015 ... As an aside, I don't know whether this tendency towards creating a cult around everyday objects and tools is some kind of modern competitive disease (the need to appear more discerning than the next person) or simply a symptom of Western decadence (as if these one-time objects of usefulness have become some kind of golden calf)? In admiring a black paint M4 or something like that I'm not immune from it myself but I'm increasingly finding the focus on the tool rather than the application of it (admiring the craftsmanship of the brushes and the exotic quality of the oil paint rather than admiring the art) rather tiresome. I don't think this kind of behaviour is very new. I have been told by my son that swords and knives by certain masters used to be much sought after and command very impressive prices. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted October 6, 2015 Share #967 Posted October 6, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) One should be able to differentiate between the tool and the product. Anyone can acquire the tool and enjoy it. It is not necessary to be expert in its use to appreciate it. OTOH, what it can produce in the hands of an expert is something else, to be admired independently. Work I produce with my Leica 111f all too frequently seems to surpass what I produce with my Leica M9, or even my Hasselblad 203FE etc. Both the tool and the product deserve separate admiration IMO. So be it. I can enjoy both. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
camnoj Posted October 6, 2015 Share #968 Posted October 6, 2015 Just bought an M6 ttl 0.85 beautiful camera and back to film WOW! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted October 7, 2015 Share #969 Posted October 7, 2015 Presumably a contemporary Rotring 600 uses the same lead as a "made in Germany" example and draws the same lines or is it like the situation with Leica cameras where a brass-geared "adjusted-to-fit-build" M4 always takes better photographs than a steel-geared, made in Portugal, MP? As an aside, I don't know whether this tendency towards creating a cult around everyday objects and tools is some kind of modern competitive disease (the need to appear more discerning than the next person) or simply a symptom of Western decadence (as if these one-time objects of usefulness have become some kind of golden calf)? In admiring a black paint M4 or something like that I'm not immune from it myself but I'm increasingly finding the focus on the tool rather than the application of it (admiring the craftsmanship of the brushes and the exotic quality of the oil paint rather than admiring the art) rather tiresome. I think you guys misunderstood this a bit. To understand my point about the 600 pens, check out the story about the demise of the German rOtring company. The story reads very much like the story about Leica. Use what ever pen works for you (I do the same) and that's it. I am just lucky enough that I have a little collection of German rOtring pens from the time before my first job and all of them are still soldiering on. Maybe my wording "cult" came with the wrong preloaded negative meaning, immediately glazing anything about a pen with negative vibes ;-) I like rOtring pens (wouldn't personally buy one from the new brand owners for how they have turned history, but rather use a BIG ball pen or any other well working piece). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted October 25, 2015 Share #970 Posted October 25, 2015 I don't own a Leica. I've read the whole thread. I've been saving for a Q. Might change my mind. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted October 26, 2015 Share #971 Posted October 26, 2015 it's all a head game, but who cares if you produce better with what is in your hand than something that is functionally the same thing. You can write the same with a standard #2 pencil as you can with a high end fountain pen. A Bessema or Zeiss RF will produce the same picture with a Leica lens as an MP or M6 or Mwhatever. My personal line is owning to collect, but if owning a black pain ostrich covered M6 makes you take better pictures, who cares as long as you understand it is how it makes you feel when using it -- and that is the critical (o me) differentiator, using it!!!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted October 29, 2015 Share #972 Posted October 29, 2015 My first Leica. One owner from new. All original boxes and paperwork. The owner told me he only put 5 rolls through it before deciding it wasn't for him. It's like new. Very happy. Camera Roll-2283 by -Captures...Moments....Forever- 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted November 4, 2015 Share #973 Posted November 4, 2015 As an aside, I don't know whether this tendency towards creating a cult around everyday objects and tools is some kind of modern competitive disease (the need to appear more discerning than the next person) or simply a symptom of Western decadence (as if these one-time objects of usefulness have become some kind of golden calf)? In admiring a black paint M4 or something like that I'm not immune from it myself but I'm increasingly finding the focus on the tool rather than the application of it (admiring the craftsmanship of the brushes and the exotic quality of the oil paint rather than admiring the art) rather tiresome. From the guy who started the "I love my M-A" thread There is certainly competition, but its more the enjoyment of using a tool. I returned the X-T1 because I thought the rear and front wheels were cheap and nasty to use. Pretty shallow huh!. But its important to me. Also why I liked the X100S more then the X100T. The left screen buttons on the X100T IMHO are cheap, nasty and difficult to press. The buttons on the X100S were lovely. 2 steps forward and 1 step back .... The reason I like shooting the M6/M7/MP is due to the build and workflow. Tried a, AE-1, EOS 10, EOS 5, 801, 601, etc. but didn't like them very much. I am also interested in peoples modifications, wacky cases and custom bits. But I will be the first to admit I'm far from normal Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bee Posted November 4, 2015 Share #974 Posted November 4, 2015 My first Leica. One owner from new. All original boxes and paperwork. The owner told me he only put 5 rolls through it before deciding it wasn't for him. It's like new. Very happy. Camera Roll-2283 by -Captures...Moments....Forever- "Very Happy" ........ You have every right to be, that is one beautiful M6 TTL and the 50 Elmar-M is a fabulous little gem Go out, shoot some film, have fun ..... I'm sure you will Kind regards, Simon 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted November 4, 2015 Share #975 Posted November 4, 2015 From the guy who started the "I love my M-A" thread Well, I did say (in the piece you quoted) that I'm not immune from it. I have no doubt that I am a Leica fanboy at heart (I also like other well designed, well made, simple products) but I do think I keep that separate from my use of my cameras as tools for photography. It also doesn't mean that I can't regret the tendency nowadays to focus on the tools rather than the application. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted November 4, 2015 Share #976 Posted November 4, 2015 "Very Happy" ........ You have every right to be, that is one beautiful M6 TTL and the 50 Elmar-M is a fabulous little gem Go out, shoot some film, have fun ..... I'm sure you will Kind regards, Simon thanks Simon. Just waiting for some decent weather. (I keep just holding it) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted November 21, 2015 Share #977 Posted November 21, 2015 I bought this body yesterday (already had the lens). I, too, am happy... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/35319-i-love-my-m6/?do=findComment&comment=2933717'>More sharing options...
Trev Posted November 22, 2015 Share #978 Posted November 22, 2015 I bought this body yesterday (already had the lens). I, too, am happy... Sweet..enjoy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmars Posted November 22, 2015 Share #979 Posted November 22, 2015 I bought this body yesterday (already had the lens). I, too, am happy... Beuatiful! What is this for a strap? Elmar Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted November 23, 2015 Share #980 Posted November 23, 2015 I bought the body, and it came with a strap. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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