Leicauser7 Posted March 15, 2017 Share #1 Posted March 15, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm curious to know how many people have used NJ to recalibrate their lens(es) and had them returned perfectly calibrated on the first try. I am asking bc I have a lens that is under warranty that is not calibrated correctly and I'm wondering is it worth trying NJ or bite the bullet, go straight to DAG, pay the $100 or so he charges and know it will come back reasonably quickly and perfectly calibrated. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jdlaing Posted March 15, 2017 Share #2 Posted March 15, 2017 I had two done over the years and both were flawlessly done by NJ. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 16, 2017 Share #3 Posted March 16, 2017 NJ prefers to have camera sent along with lenses, even though they are calibrated to independent standards. I last did this 8 years ago with an M8.2 and 3 lenses. All came back fine within 2 weeks. Can't speak to current turnaround. That said, I've had Don perform other lens service (sticky focus action on 50 Summilux ASPH), fast and inexpensively, after NJ said nothing could be improved. NJ should, however, be fully capable of basic calibration. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverover Posted March 16, 2017 Share #4 Posted March 16, 2017 I had two done over the years and both were flawlessly done by NJ. Do you recall how much NJ charged at that time for the camera and or lens calibrations? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted March 16, 2017 Share #5 Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) I sent my f/1 noctilux in for calibration and NJ charged me $800 and took 6 months. They insisted that the lens needed service but other than the focus being off I saw no issues. Edited March 16, 2017 by Soden Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted March 16, 2017 Share #6 Posted March 16, 2017 Do you recall how much NJ charged at that time for the camera and or lens calibrations? No charge for either one. One was still in warranty and the other about a year past. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicaPassion Posted March 16, 2017 Share #7 Posted March 16, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Any info re: what % of brand new lenses have to go back for calibration? Shouldn't Leica get it right the first time? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicauser7 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Any info re: what % of brand new lenses have to go back for calibration? Shouldn't Leica get it right the first time?YES THEY SHOULD! Apart from the inconvenience it causes, I can only imagine the number of users that struggle to get good results and ultimately don't benefit from the full quality of the Leica M system bc the factory calibration QC hasn't historically been where it needs to be.... and many users simply don't realize it... such a shame... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited March 16, 2017 by Leicauser7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted March 16, 2017 Share #9 Posted March 16, 2017 The better the QC the more expensive. There comes a point where it's better for everyone to fix on fail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicaPassion Posted March 16, 2017 Share #10 Posted March 16, 2017 Leica should conduct a comprehensive QC check. How many customers are displeased when they receive a brand new lens costing thousands only to have to send it in for a calibration repair? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted March 16, 2017 Share #11 Posted March 16, 2017 One or two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted March 16, 2017 Share #12 Posted March 16, 2017 This Leica stuff is pretty sturdy but not made of cast iron. I think it unfair and uneducated to blame everything on QC. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlUJmT2h3-4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lM3SRG7D21Y Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicauser7 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share #13 Posted March 16, 2017 Ha. Just me and my brother are two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicauser7 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share #14 Posted March 16, 2017 This Leica stuff is pretty sturdy but not made of cast iron. I think it unfair and uneducated to blame everything on QC. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlUJmT2h3-4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lM3SRG7D21Y With respect, then whose fault is it? A properly calibrated lens would rarely go out of calibration just from being shipped from point A to point B. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveNC Posted March 16, 2017 Share #15 Posted March 16, 2017 This Leica stuff is pretty sturdy but not made of cast iron. I think it unfair and uneducated to blame everything on QC. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlUJmT2h3-4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lM3SRG7D21Y Now that is funny! Especially the runaway truck... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff S Posted March 16, 2017 Share #16 Posted March 16, 2017 One or two. I've had to send 4 out 6 lenses in. All came back perfect. The truth is, I didn't originally know about mis-calibration issues. My old m240 had trouble being in focus so I thought it was me. Live View was perfect always. Then when I learnt about calibration, I manually calibrated my camera to the lens. But it was the lenses that were out. When I finally figured that out, after sending in an obviously mia-calibrated 90mm cron (it wouldn't rotate to infinity), and although it came back perfect using a demo camera at the store, I couldn't get my M240 calibrated to the 90. Possibly because my 35 lux and 50 notci were way off. I gave up and got rid of the M240 for an SL to avoid this issue. And I swore off RF. I suspect this is happens in many cases with people starting off with Leica RF bodies. We blame ourselves for poor focus because this was never an issue with older SLR and newer DSLR cameras. It was never an issue. Then I played with the m10, really enjoyed the ease of focus with the 90, knew it was properly calibrated, bought it, sent in my other lenses mis-calibrated lenses which all came back the way they should have been. Now I love RF focusing and do it very quickly wide open. And now I understand 90% of the comments about MF using the OVF. I suspect it Leica insured their lenses and bodies were calibrated to the same spec, many more people would adopt RF and appreciate it as I now do. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicauser7 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share #17 Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Yes, exactly!! Leica, if you are reading this, improving the qc of m lens and camera calibration will pay for itself 10X in terms of less warranty repairs, less frustrated customers and more positive m experiences, particularly for customers new to the system... which is many these days. From what I have read the qc of M10 calibration had been very high but m lense calibration qc still has a long ways to go... Edited March 16, 2017 by Leicauser7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted March 16, 2017 Share #18 Posted March 16, 2017 With respect, then whose fault is it? A properly calibrated lens would rarely go out of calibration just from being shipped from point A to point B. Unless handled by those shipping monkeys in the videos. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronazle Posted March 16, 2017 Share #19 Posted March 16, 2017 Back to the original question. I've sent several in for focus and\or CLA to N.J.. They have always been returned with optimal focus, whether warranty or paid work. Speed, well that is another question. Regards, Ron Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arichter Posted March 16, 2017 Share #20 Posted March 16, 2017 I was actually surprised how easy it was to nail focus with Summilux 50mm ASPH wide open on M262 after calibration last December. The lens and the camera spent four weeks with Leica NJ. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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