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Any experience with TS-APO-Elmar-S-120MM?


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I have an offer of this lens at hand, like new, decent price: https://en.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-S/Leica-S-Lenses/TS-APO-Elmar-S-120MM-f-5.6-ASPH

 

Any experience with it on the S?

 

(I know it is a a Schneider-Kreuznach design also available on other cameras)

 

If you don't have the 120 macro don't get it get the macro if you have the macro buy it and leave it on a shelf as you'll always be wanting to use the macro

 

 

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I have used the Mamiya version with the adapter for a tabletop shoot. It worked very well, but it's very expensive.

 

I find the view camera are easier to use than a tilt/shift lens (in the studio). As a substitute with limited movements I use BALPRO bellows with a Digitar. It's more than three times cheaper than the 120/5.6 Asph.

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I have used the 90 version on a Nikon FX. I had quite limited success, imo, be prepared for a frustrated experience...it is not a simple nor straight forward device. I'm sure it can be conquered with much trial and error but it in no way resembles the Canon or Nikon counterparts.

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So far, I like only one PC lens on my humble S2. It was a nice copy oh Mamiya 50мм. , only shift, no tilts. Stopped down is was ok. And my copy it not the optimally perfect.

 

Tabletop work with tilt and focus bracketing is much better done with a bellows and and an enlarger lens, a macro digitar or a Zeiss 73mm. The short (bellows) version of the Leica 100mm/f4 is very good on a bigger chip of my s2.

For me, the 120/5,6 is too dark and cumbersome

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I have the Mamiya 50mm shift as well, it is OK but nothing special compared to the S lenses.

 

What bellows are you using with your S? I might try my Nikon PB-4 bellows (tilt/shift capable) with the 105mm f4 Nikkor-P using a battery of adapters - Nikon F > Leica M, Leica M > R, LeiKo R > S. A quick search showed no Nikon lens to Leica R body adapters, they would not be able to focus to infinity so maybe not available...

 

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Hi John,

 

I use the BALPRO 1 Bellows Set from Novoflex. It was supplied with a Leica S adapter and the Schneider Kreuznach Apo-Digitar 90mm f/4.5 lens. I also have a Novoflex L plate and Castel cross. I have a 39l lens plate and I can mount my enlarger lenses. The kit was used for flat art copying after my Sinar kit was stolen.

 

The Leica R plate can be bought from Novoflex as well. I don't have it, I have an adapter and fixed the 100 mm R bellows lens through the stack. The center of the image was fine, the corners were a bit dark, not unmanageable.

 

I also bought the Actus mini, and it's a better view camera than the bellows from Novoflex. It allows some basic movements and is better designed. I cannot use my S2 on it and I want to keep the Novoflex bellows for my copy stand and the tethered shooting.

 

And I agree with you that there is nothing better than the S lenses.

If I save enough, I will return back to the Sinar, even if a smaller camera is adequate.

 

Yevgeny

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Thank you for the feedback and experiences. I decided not to take it, despite a very tempting price. Main reason that it could only shift in one direction, which means that if I were to simulate tech camera for panoramas, I would have to rotate the whole lens 180 degrees after center and left, to right shift, probably messing with focus. Too cumbersome. But optically very good.

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I have an offer of this lens at hand, like new, decent price: https://en.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-S/Leica-S-Lenses/TS-APO-Elmar-S-120MM-f-5.6-ASPH

 

Any experience with it on the S?

 

(I know it is a a Schneider-Kreuznach design also available on other cameras)

 

I had this lens and returned it, it was inferior to the S 120 macro. only buy it if you really need the TS function.

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Not sure what you are comparing it to? The Mamiya is the same, twist the lens 180 to make it shift the other direction... Not sure how that affects focus?

 

john

 

 

Not directly, just very easy to touch and change focus in the process of turning the lens.

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