RayD28 Posted March 9, 2017 Share #1 Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Been evaluating the beast. Might trade for 50mm Lux. Took some test photos a few weekends ago and sent them to Ilford USA for developing, scans, and prints. Chose Ilford because I thought they'd do a reasonable job so I can eliminate the possibility of incorrect development or quality of scanning device. Probably other labs doing just as good work but I didn't have time to research. These images are from large JPEGs I imported from the Web into Lightroom and then exported to appropriate size for the forum. I was most curious about close focus and rendering and sharpness. Shot with HP5+ at 400. Used a light meter and used M3. I'm posting a few photos for your consideration and opinions. Subjects and compositions are boring as I was eager to get the film sent and get the results. Tested both normal and close focus. Forgive me and advise if I should have posted these in another thread for sub-forum. Normal focus range: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 9, 2017 by Raycpa Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/270204-test-photos-of-leica-dual-range-dr-summicron/?do=findComment&comment=3230072'>More sharing options...
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RayD28 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share #2 Posted March 9, 2017 Another normal focus. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/270204-test-photos-of-leica-dual-range-dr-summicron/?do=findComment&comment=3230074'>More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share #3 Posted March 9, 2017 Another normal focus Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/270204-test-photos-of-leica-dual-range-dr-summicron/?do=findComment&comment=3230075'>More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share #4 Posted March 9, 2017 Final normal focus Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/270204-test-photos-of-leica-dual-range-dr-summicron/?do=findComment&comment=3230076'>More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share #5 Posted March 9, 2017 Close focus Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/270204-test-photos-of-leica-dual-range-dr-summicron/?do=findComment&comment=3230077'>More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share #6 Posted March 9, 2017 Another close focus Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/270204-test-photos-of-leica-dual-range-dr-summicron/?do=findComment&comment=3230081'>More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share #7 Posted March 9, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Another close focus Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/270204-test-photos-of-leica-dual-range-dr-summicron/?do=findComment&comment=3230085'>More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted March 9, 2017 Final close focus. This was the shortest distance I could get. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/270204-test-photos-of-leica-dual-range-dr-summicron/?do=findComment&comment=3230086'>More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted March 9, 2017 Share #9 Posted March 9, 2017 You shouldn't judge a lens on a single roll of film. I have a DR, it is tack sharp at all ranges and apertures. Try a few more films, have them developed at a couple of different labs. The scans you get from most labs are also usually not very good. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted March 9, 2017 Share #10 Posted March 9, 2017 A close focus sample from my DR. Ilford FP4+, home developed and scanned. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/270204-test-photos-of-leica-dual-range-dr-summicron/?do=findComment&comment=3230088'>More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted March 9, 2017 Share #11 Posted March 9, 2017 A regular range photo, from the same roll above. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/270204-test-photos-of-leica-dual-range-dr-summicron/?do=findComment&comment=3230090'>More sharing options...
derleicaman Posted March 10, 2017 Share #12 Posted March 10, 2017 I'm curious as to which 50 Summilux you are considering. Pre-ASPH lens will give you nothing over the DR except the added stop of speed going from f/2 to f/1.4. Image quality no where near as good as the DR. If you are looking at a 50 Lux ASPH, you will see an improvement in IQ and speed, but you will loose the close-up capability. Either Summilux option will cost you quite a bit in the trade. Another question is what is it about the DR you are unhappy with? A clean one is hard to beat. Another lens you might consider is the Zeiss 50/2 Planar ZM. One of the best lenses for Leica out there. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share #13 Posted March 10, 2017 I'm curious as to which 50 Summilux you are considering. Pre-ASPH lens will give you nothing over the DR except the added stop of speed going from f/2 to f/1.4. Image quality no where near as good as the DR. If you are looking at a 50 Lux ASPH, you will see an improvement in IQ and speed, but you will loose the close-up capability. Either Summilux option will cost you quite a bit in the trade. Another question is what is it about the DR you are unhappy with? A clean one is hard to beat. Another lens you might consider is the Zeiss 50/2 Planar ZM. One of the best lenses for Leica out there. I'm considering the ASPH. The Lux will work on the M3 and my M-P. I have a 50 Cron (v5) and I could sell/trade it and the DR and get the Lux. I am definitely on the fence because the DR and M3 just seem right together, and I will rarely need the extra stop offered by the Lux. However, I'm used to having a 50 1.4 in pocket, going all the way back to my Olympus OM-2 days. Psychologically I miss the extra stop but in reality I won't need it very often. Another factor is the DR's focus ring is a little sticky and I'll probably have to spend money to get it adjusted. It won't be much but it might some dollars I could use towards the Lux. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share #14 Posted March 10, 2017 You shouldn't judge a lens on a single roll of film. I have a DR, it is tack sharp at all ranges and apertures. Try a few more films, have them developed at a couple of different labs. The scans you get from most labs are also usually not very good. Good advice. What kind of scanner do you use? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted March 10, 2017 Share #15 Posted March 10, 2017 Good advice. What kind of scanner do you use? A basic Epson 650 flatbed. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsleica Posted March 10, 2017 Share #16 Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) The DR comes into its own when using fine grained film (25/50 asa) on a contrasty day..in the middle F stop range.. Back in the day...the DR with either Pan F or Tech pan..was unbeatable.. And on T-max it can be great as well.. It tames the contrast..and ups the resolution..certain subjects profit from this.. On cloudy days in color.it has a nice palate as well.. And w/Tech pan..you can close in on 4x5 results..grainless beautiful high resolution 11x14's.. But you have to do all the film development and printing yourself..to realize the results.. Edited March 10, 2017 by tsleica 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share #17 Posted March 10, 2017 Thank you, tsleica. I'll keep this mind. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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