chris_livsey Posted February 17, 2017 Share #1 Posted February 17, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) http://www.ars-imago.com/lab-box/ A multi-format, 35mm/120, daylight-loading film developing tank not made of bakelite. It will be interesting to see a retail price. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Hi chris_livsey, Take a look here Daylight Loading Tank - Kickstarter. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Robert M Poole Posted February 17, 2017 Share #2 Posted February 17, 2017 Sorry, I've not done much developing. What is the advantage of this compared to traditional daylight tanks? www.robertpoolephotography.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share #3 Posted February 17, 2017 Sorry, I've not done much developing. What is the advantage of this compared to traditional daylight tanks? www.robertpoolephotography.com The clue is in the "daylight loading" the film is loaded onto the spool in the tank in daylight, no changing bag or darkroom or duvet required. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted February 17, 2017 Share #4 Posted February 17, 2017 Looks interesting. On the other hand, I've been using my Paterson large changing bag for over thirty years and cannot remember thinking "gosh, wish I had a daylight loading tank...". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pope Posted February 17, 2017 Share #5 Posted February 17, 2017 Is it a solution looking for a problem? I suppose it's good for people who may have difficulty loading a spiral in either a darkroom or changing bag (and who hasn't?) but then I don't know how reliably the tank will load after a few uses or if it's not completely dry or clean. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug A Posted February 17, 2017 Share #6 Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Another issue for me would be how the film is rinsed. I've been using the Ilford 5 inversions + 10 inversions + 20 inversions method with my Kindermann tanks for a number of years and certainly would not go back to the bad old days of rinsing the film under a faucet. Edited February 17, 2017 by Doug A Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Poole Posted February 17, 2017 Share #7 Posted February 17, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) The loading onto the reels is the bit I struggle with most but I think that's just due to a lack of practice. Is it right that you can retrieve the leader, load the first bit of the spiral in the day light then wind the rest onto the reel in the changing bag? I've never tried it but it sounds easier than trying to do it all in the bag. Sorry to go a bit OT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted February 17, 2017 Share #8 Posted February 17, 2017 The loading onto the reels is the bit I struggle with most but I think that's just due to a lack of practice. Is it right that you can retrieve the leader, load the first bit of the spiral in the day light then wind the rest onto the reel in the changing bag? I've never tried it but it sounds easier than trying to do it all in the bag. Sorry to go a bit OT. Just leave the leader out when you rewind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Poole Posted February 17, 2017 Share #9 Posted February 17, 2017 Just leave the leader out when you rewind.I'll give that a go. The leader retriever I have is quite easily to use though www.robertpoolephotography.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted February 17, 2017 Share #10 Posted February 17, 2017 ..... The leader retriever I have is quite easily to use though... which one would that be? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Poole Posted February 17, 2017 Share #11 Posted February 17, 2017 www.robertpoolephotography.com 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pope Posted February 17, 2017 Share #12 Posted February 17, 2017 Back in my darkroom days I had one of the Ilfor leader retrievers - a very simple piece of kit that worked flawlessly. Robert, in answer to your earlier question, you can start loading a spiral before turning the lights out. At least you can the Paterson ones. Then I used to find pulling the film out of the canister a bit at a time and holding the film by hedge, pushing it into the spiral worked very well. Sometimes I found that the ratchet mechanic would stick or the film would jam or jump out of the grooves. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted February 19, 2017 Share #13 Posted February 19, 2017 Looks like an updated Rondinax - and nothing wrong with that! C. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
105012 Posted February 19, 2017 Share #14 Posted February 19, 2017 I have 4 daylight loading tanks: 1. Kodak daylight loading 2. JOBO 2400 daylight loading 3. Rondinax 35U (60U version is separate for 120/220) 4. Rondix The simplest and best is the Rondix, nothing to break or go wrong, uses the least amount of chemicals (save $), can be used for all processes and tiny (much smaller than any of the others), so takes negligible space when travelling. Glad to see a modern alternative arise, bit disappointed with size and presumably amount of chemicals that will be required, so will be sticking with my Rondix for manual processing... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share #15 Posted February 27, 2017 Absolutely amazing response, film is dead, I think not: Six times the goal already pledged!! €400,592 pledged of €70,000 goal 3,049 backers 29 days to go 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share #16 Posted February 27, 2017 Tried to edit but passed deadline, apologies for second post. To put the above into some perspective Ferrania on Kickstarter: 5,582 backers pledged $322,420 to help bring this project to life. Note Dollars and Euros so not directly equivalent: Euro equivalent 303,525 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share #17 Posted March 28, 2017 €656,903 pledged of €70,000 goal 4,791 backers Film is not dead. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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