M10 - the Image Thread

[NZDavid]

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Looks like better highlight details on face in the M10 compared with M240. That may be significant.

 

Both shot in very dull light. Street scene lighting on bricks is completely different so hard to tell.

[Paul J]

Paul I am not saying its conspiracy, I just know with past experience a lot of times Higher ISO performance came with the sacrifice of dynamic range. Canon was notorious for this.

 

Now you as a professional (studio) environment photographer you know that it is a huge setback if that is the case, specially when it comes to Fashion photography and the fabric detail that comes with that.

 

It may not be a big deal in street or journalism 

 

and again I may be wrong a more controlled environment test will tell the tale. 

 

I still consider the M10 a welcome addition to the M family 

 

My favourite in the film cameras was my M5  it was by far my workhorse for years. 

 

and I have a feeling the 240 is going to take that roll 

 

 

 

It's just a difference in exposure caused by different lighting between shots.

 

Crops above the bike:

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Edited January 20, 2017 by Paul J

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[waterlenz]

here is the result on this set 

M10 first set M240 second set 

You guys call it 

I was able to bring down the white shirt and get rid of the CA at its edge. However, the image is focused on the hairs on the back of his neck and not the beard or face so not able to judge resolution.

I was able to bring up the darkness around these bushes but this part of the pic is OOF possibly due to the large aperture. The image is quite sharp on things in the background.

Both these images that an M10 image is quite malleable in post using Lightroom. Thank you for posting the DNGs.

Edited January 20, 2017 by waterlenz

[Printmaker]

Somebody please shoot a Macbeth color checker or an xRite Color checker Passport under controlled light with both cameras using the same lens. Until you do, you are just pissing into the wind.

[chris_tribble]

Some more from today.  And yes, the woman's hair color and jacket are exactly as they were in real life -- this doesn't record colors hot, the way the M240 seemed to at first.

John - thanks for posting these. Encouraging.  Now waiting to hear what's happening to the body I have on order.  

A question - have you been able to see how the M10 fares with IR contamination?  How black are the blacks of artificial fabrics?  REALLY interested to see if there's an improvement - the SL definitely won over the M240 on this count.

[microview]

Would be interesting to see the couple on the balcony (posting No 11) at larger size – the purplish jacket would be telling.

[Tobers]

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Yes, apologies for the mis-focus. It definitely wasn't a controlled environment. The intention was to be able to get samples that allowed DNG manipulation particularly of the highlights and shadows, and detect any colour differences. Sharpness wasn't really a factor (fun at f/1.4 for the portraits as usual). Exposures were a few mins apart so that would account for some light changes.

 

Also the exposure settings were different. The M10 gave me 1/90th at f/5.6 with ISO100 and the M-240 gave me 1/15th with the same settings when metered on the road surface. While the images vary slightly in brightness, the big difference in shutter speed seems to suggest differing exposure calculations between the two cameras, notwithstanding needing to take the "pull100" ISO setting of the M-240 into account.

[Tobers]

Tobers. How many minutes apart were the exposures?

About 10 minutes. 

Edited January 20, 2017 by Tobers

[Teddy69]

You can see and download some samples here

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http://www.fotopolis.pl/testy/aparaty/28060-leica-m10-zdjecia-przykladowe

[Paul J]

 Wow ok somethings do not add up there should not be a 2.5 stop difference in the exposures unless the apertures were not the same 

 

 

Eh? 10 minutes is like a lifetime for light to change. It's clear to see that change in the two shots. One has full sun on the building the other doesn't. Just because the overall screen is 15th at 5.6 doesn't mean it is uniform light and it doesn't mean it is exposed correctly.

 

You are barking up the wrong tree.

Edited January 20, 2017 by Paul J

[piblondin]

Can someone post more straight-from-camera JPEGs along with settings used? I was able to achieve pretty good results with my M240 but never quite the colors or the amount of DR I wanted, so I ended up processing RAW about 3/4 of the time.

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 Wow ok somethings do not add up there should not be a 2.5 stop difference in the exposures unless the apertures were not the same 

Are there no clouds where you live?

[Paul J]

Well that seems the painfully obvious thing...

[Steve Ash]

unedited image of my friend imitating Robert de Niro. I struggled with focusing due to laughter.

 

 

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[Steve Ash]

Unedited picture of my wife. And yes, my wife's skin has a yellow tint.

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[Steve Ash]

unedited image of my friend imitating Robert de Niro. I struggled with focusing due to laughter.

 

This shot is done with ISO2500 if anyone is interested to know.

[63strat]

50mm 1.4 Summilux?

[cirke]

your wife can you give the EXIFs please ?

 

thank you

[Steve Ash]

Summilux 50 Asp. , shot of my wife was at much lower ISO. I do not have access to the file now.

 

 

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[elmars]

Nice shot of Petra, Steve! [emoji3]