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RAW-support for Leica T on iOS > 10.2


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Hi,

 

recent updates of iOS seem to have added support to allow third-party applications (such as LightRoom for iOS) to manipulate RAW-images.  See https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207049.  However, amongst the supported Leica-cameras, the T(L) is not mentioned.

 

I am not familiar with the typical workflow that is used to import RAW-images directly from a (supported) camera into Adobe Lightroom on an iOS device and hence cannot test it (some hints as to how this presumably can be done are mentioned at https://petapixel.com/2016/07/13/lightroom-mobile-can-now-edit-raw-file/)

 

Does anybody know wether the Leica T(L) has just been forgotten in the above list or can someone confirm that it really does not work ?

 

If the former is the case, I might give it a try to import the raw images instead of the jpeg (it seems to require either uploading raw images via a cloud solution or using some USB connection kit).  If someone has tried it out without success whereas it did work with another camera, I would love to hear it.

 

regards,

Bruno.

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The Leica T(L)'s DNG files are not supported. Its lack of mention is intentional.

 

On iOS, you'll just see the low-res embedded JPEG preview.

 

On Mac (in the Photos app, for example), you'll initially see the low-res embedded JPEG preview. But macOS will use generic DNG support to decode the file. It won't have proper chromatic aberration removal, for example, but some barrel distortion does seem to get corrected. Once the file has been decoded (e.g., by clicking Edit in the Photos app), Photos will store and display a higher-resolution JPEG preview.

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To answer your question about workflow: I have the Lightning SD Card Reader. I've used it with m4/3 cameras, shooting only RAW with them.

 

I don't seem to be able to set the Leica T to shoot only DNG, so I loaded up the SD card on another machine, deleted the JPEG side of my shot, and plugged the SD card reader into my iPad to try importing DNG-only to see what it did.

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The DNG files are supported by Lightroom Mobile, and VSCO app on iOS.

 

Remember iOS now supports RAW converter applications, but iOS's photos app IS NOT a RAW converter in itself. 

 

I work with Lightroom Mobile all the time with a WIFI SD card in my Leica S (Typ 006) and Leica X (Typ 113).

 

The Leica S files are a bit heavy, even for my iPad Pro and iPhone 7+. The Leica X (Typ 113) files work amazingly smooth however, and so will the Leica T files... 

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Remember iOS now supports RAW converter applications, but iOS's photos app IS NOT a RAW converter in itself. 

 

 

As of iOS 10, the Photos app will do RAW conversion using the same RAW framework used in macOS. That framework's capabilities is what this list of supported cameras is displaying.

 

The Leica S and Leica X (Typ 113) are officially supported on that list, so they should work regardless.

 

It looks like Lightroom Mobile for iOS might be using its own RAW conversion, as you imply. If that's the case, it should support the T even if Photos doesn't. I've not used it.

 

VSCO, however, is very likely using the system RAW framework.

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I've got to say that having tried the iPad Pro route a few times. I find the workflow insufficient for my needs.

 

Yes I can import using the SD Lightning adapter. The raw photos go to the camera roll and then you can go to LR Mobile to import them.

The problems that I found were:

1) importing was very slow for lots of shots.

2) I don't want to erase my card so the second and subsequent imports take even longer

3) there is an extra step to import into LRM

4) my iPad only has 256G for everything and that is not enough for weeks or months away. I'm going to Nepal for a month and I would've loved to just take my iPad.Instead after testing it out I decided to downsize my MacBook Pro 15 to a new smaller MacBook Pro 13 so that I wouldn't have to carry as much while trekking up and down 3000m mountains.

5) there is no way to make a second copy on an external drive when importing

6) I'm not really into editing on the iPad but it is great for picking shots for my first pass. What I would like to do is geotag and tag my images.

7) syncing the images back to LR from the iPad takes forever and you have to keep the iPad on and in LR for it to sync

 

I really wanted the iPad Pro to work. It is small. It is light. It's surprisingly fast. It doesn't take much power. It has a remarkably good screen. But it's not there yet. Adobe seems to have gotten the UI for the develop module pretty good for a mobile device. The thing that I think would be the biggest boon is if they got the library module with tagging and syncing with the desktop working better.

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