Paulus Posted January 19, 2017 Share #1 Posted January 19, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) IMHO Not only will there be more demand on lenses if the new M 10 generates new customers, but also the old lenses would become attractive. Due to the new " coding " ways in the camera. Also because of the high retro look, an old lens could get more attractive for new buyers. Leica did IMHO introduce the summaron 28 with this camera in mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 Hi Paulus, Take a look here Price increase of all Leica lenses due to the new M 10?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
menos I M6 Posted January 20, 2017 Share #2 Posted January 20, 2017 It has to be waited out. Prices of preowned lenses are not solely dictated by how well a specific Leica camera body is received but many other factors too (availability of new lenses, economy, other camera options, fashion). What we saw after the introduction of the M9 was very unique as the market was literally starved, waiting for a full frame digital rangefinder camera option. It is not likely that such a situation is repeated. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted January 20, 2017 Share #3 Posted January 20, 2017 Yes, the situation in 2011 (when it was possible to sell a 35 Summilux FLE for $8,000) is unlikely to be repeated. Used prices since that "bubble" period have been much more like the historic trend for Leica lenses. Leica now have much greater manufacturing capacity and there are rarely shortages of new lenses or waiting lists. Re: the 28 Summaron, I'm not sure this was released with the M10 specifically in mind (I'm not sure there is anything intrinsically "retro" about the M10 other than the return to film body thickness and having a twirly knob at the top) but more about catching the current mood in the photography market for all things classic and "analogue". It might be that Leica are testing the market a bit and might have other reissues up their sleeves but I suspect that it will prove to be a bit of a one-off. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iaeaix Posted January 20, 2017 Share #4 Posted January 20, 2017 Well, if the claimed better performance for wide lens will be true for those old Wider than 35mm Leica lens, I can see price increase is happening for some lens. I'd love to see a capable digital M can handle Super Angulon 21mm and v1 Elmarit 28mm well in edges and corners. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otho Posted April 4, 2018 Share #5 Posted April 4, 2018 BTW, Leica prices increasing is still an actual theme: https://leicarumors.com/2018/04/04/additional-information-on-the-upcoming-us-leica-price-increase.aspx/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsleica Posted April 4, 2018 Share #6 Posted April 4, 2018 I think..if Leica is not careful..they will price themselves..right out of the market.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted April 4, 2018 Share #7 Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Asking prices of prestige personal items tend to increase in a non-intuitive way compared to the stock market, but their selling price is hidden, and it's a loser. Leica goods are not good investments. Rather than buying a pricey Leica and locking it away, it is better to put the same money into a healthy mutual or mutual-like, for example BRK-A or BRK-B cannot be beat. In time you can buy your dream prize at a great relative discount. Patience becomes profit. The market for Leica goods is microscopic. The market is everything else - huge. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited April 4, 2018 by pico 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268443-price-increase-of-all-leica-lenses-due-to-the-new-m-10/?do=findComment&comment=3494256'>More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted April 4, 2018 Share #8 Posted April 4, 2018 My M6 purchased last year for X would cost nearly 2X today. If I chose to sell via a dealer and take a hit of 20% commission I would still make a profit. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted April 5, 2018 Share #9 Posted April 5, 2018 A chart without axes labels or a key - how ... artistic. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr237 Posted April 5, 2018 Share #10 Posted April 5, 2018 Keep in mind these price increases bring many lenses back to the requested retail price circa 2014, before Leica initiated several phases of price reductions to reflect the strong US dollar relative to the euro. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_1987 Posted April 5, 2018 Share #11 Posted April 5, 2018 probably better ISO performance of the M10 made slower lenses more sought after? or perhaps the trend to adapt leica lenses onto newer mirrorless bodies like Sony's full frame a series has an impact too? Hard to tell Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-A-C Posted April 5, 2018 Share #12 Posted April 5, 2018 The privately owned Federal Reserve steals purchasing power through inflation. That's the main reason prices must be raised. Leica has bills to pay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted April 5, 2018 Share #13 Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) A chart without axes labels or a key - how ... artistic. My chart? What's missing? You have years and USD. What more do you want? Floating medium? . Edited April 5, 2018 by pico 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted April 5, 2018 Share #14 Posted April 5, 2018 Supply and demand are the factors that affect the price of anything. @pico: has demonstrated that some things, but not everything, can be turned into a chart. Banks and wealth funds are specialists in making money work better than most people can achieve. So what? Well, since 2008 most of the rich people have become richer. The poor have become poorer. That is very sad, IMO. None of that has anything to do with Leica lenses becoming more expensive. M10 sales numbers are unlikely to cause a global pricing surge. Inflation and the need for funding Research & Development are more likely contributors. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted April 5, 2018 Share #15 Posted April 5, 2018 My chart? What's missing? You have years and USD. What more do you want? Floating medium? . So in 1997 there were 25$ but in 2018 there were 200$. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencychin Posted April 6, 2018 Share #16 Posted April 6, 2018 So in 1997 there were 25$ but in 2018 there were 200$. Hmm.... inflation has been even more serious than I believe. Unless my 2018 income is 8 times that of 1997, I am worse off? So the rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer. It is an "Accepted" rule of life game. Benedict Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted April 6, 2018 Share #17 Posted April 6, 2018 Is it a chart of inflation? One normally starts those with 1$. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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