Soden Posted April 26, 2017 Share #321 Posted April 26, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes - whose images are meant in this general remark then? Obviously the person you quoted Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 26, 2017 Posted April 26, 2017 Hi Soden, Take a look here Why M240 users will (not) switch to M10. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jmahto Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share #322 Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Never having had the facility, I am wondering does the GPS record the Lat and Long for the image in the file? That done, into the future do you then need to consult a map to find where the image was made? I am curious how this really works. For me the main usefulness is search. LR uses "reverse geocoding" (It can be enabled in Catalog Settings > Metadata > Reverse Geoencoding) to find out Sublocation, City, State/Province, Country, and ISO Country Code. It means that I can search for all pictures taken in San Francisco just by typing "San Francisco" in the search. Other tools may have similar features (I guess Picasa also does). Edited April 26, 2017 by jmahto 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeleica Posted April 26, 2017 Share #323 Posted April 26, 2017 Thanks for reminding me why I don't come here much, a pissing contest between a poster and the mods not realizing they are being just as pissy. Sweet! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 26, 2017 Share #324 Posted April 26, 2017 Obviously the person you quoted Not that obvious to me... I'll happily substitute "you" by "one". Anyway the whole discussion is completely moot, as there is no GPS in China. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted April 26, 2017 Share #325 Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Not that obvious to me... I'll happily substitute "you" by "one". Anyway the whole discussion is completely moot, as there is no GPS in China. Ah, there is on the T/TL and the SL... not to mention iPhones and various specialized GPS units like Garmin. GPS is everywhere here, just not on the M. That's my point! Edited April 26, 2017 by Soden Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 26, 2017 Share #326 Posted April 26, 2017 Not for nothing but the M has no GPS in it to begin with. It is added with an accessory such as the Visoflex or a grip. It's the accessory that has the issue. GPS on an M is an afterthought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted April 26, 2017 Share #327 Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Not for nothing but the M has no GPS in it to begin with. It is added with an accessory such as the Visoflex or a grip. It's the accessory that has the issue. GPS on an M is an afterthought. It's the same Visoflex on the M10 and T/TL. No problems on the T/TL, GPS works well. So I don't follow your logic. All it would take is a firmware update to fix this. Edited April 26, 2017 by Soden Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted April 26, 2017 Share #328 Posted April 26, 2017 Well this is way off topic... but to say simply, when someone refers to your work as not very significant, one tends to get upset. Please show me where I referred to your work as insignificant! I don't even know what work you do. As for the GPS question, I am definitely no expert, but I suspect photographers for many many years have found other ways to locate and annotate their images, albeit not as convenient as GPS apparently is. Fact is, you do what you can with what you have and make the best of it. Edit: I just read, in another post that you are a teacher. I imagine that to to be very difficult without the native language and a greater challenge than the absence of GPS. Your efforts, I suspect, are to be admired. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted April 26, 2017 Share #329 Posted April 26, 2017 Thanks for reminding me why I don't come here much, a pissing contest between a poster and the mods not realizing they are being just as pissy. Sweet! For someone who does not come here much, your opinion of mods smacks of ignorance. As for pissing contests, I am under the impression that they were invented by your lot, down in Texas wasn't it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marchyman Posted April 26, 2017 Share #330 Posted April 26, 2017 As for pissing contests, I am under the impression that they were invented by your lot, down in Texas wasn't it? An excellent example of how NOT to deescalate a pissing contest. Well done! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 26, 2017 Share #331 Posted April 26, 2017 Quite a few members are of a certain age, which may make them losing contenders anyway... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share #332 Posted April 27, 2017 An excellent example of how NOT to deescalate a pissing contest. Well done! Why do you want deescalation? I just got popcorn ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted April 27, 2017 Share #333 Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) Please show me where I referred to your work as insignificant! I don't even know what work you do. As for the GPS question, I am definitely no expert, but I suspect photographers for many many years have found other ways to locate and annotate their images, albeit not as convenient as GPS apparently is. Fact is, you do what you can with what you have and make the best of it. Edit: I just read, in another post that you are a teacher. I imagine that to to be very difficult without the native language and a greater challenge than the absence of GPS. Your efforts, I suspect, are to be admired. Sorry you misunderstood, I was referring to a comment from jaapv. At no time did I think you were disrespectful. I teach English in a university, one geared toward educators. All of my students have had ten years of English, but even so there english is horrible. On the other hand, I do travel extensively with many friends, whom none of which speak English. So I avail myself with whatever technology that assists in communication. Like the maps app on the iPhone. The problem is updating the hundreds of photos I take with my M. Having built in GPS would be very helpful, I suspect that others feel that way too or the function would not exist at all. I find the restriction of the location of usage to be ridiculous. The T/TL ( and SL) do not have this restriction, but do share the GPS in the common Visoflex. I have and shoot extensively with the M240 and M246. I also have the Multifunction handgrip. It's GPS is so bad I hesitate to buy any camera that has restricted GPS. Last summer I was visiting my family in the states. I was there for about two months and never did the GPS recognize I was out of China. Edited April 27, 2017 by Soden 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted April 27, 2017 Share #334 Posted April 27, 2017 An excellent example of how NOT to deescalate a pissing contest. Well done! Well, I have a spare pair of shoes. You may like to try them on. I have invited other mods to delete my post if considered out of order. Notwithstanding, I am just an ordinary person like anyone else. I do sometimes react to opinions that are without genuine supportive substance. P.S. It is also only opinion that it was a pissing contest. I did not view it that way. Calling it such is in fact an escalation in itself, IMO. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted April 27, 2017 Share #335 Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) .....but even so there english is horrible.Yup. Sorry, couldn't resist. Jeff Edited April 27, 2017 by Jeff S 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeleica Posted April 27, 2017 Share #336 Posted April 27, 2017 P.S. It is also only opinion that it was a pissing contest. I did not view it that way. Calling it such is in fact an escalation in itself, IMO. Erl, fair enough man. So let me put it another way: Why is it when ever I come here and lately it is to see how M10's are shipping, I just see so much foot stomping grumpiness? I just wish it were a more friendly place like my other forums, hiking, mtn. biking, etc. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted April 27, 2017 Share #337 Posted April 27, 2017 Yup. Sorry, couldn't resist. Jeff[/ No problem. English is so illogical, I'm surprised by the lack of humor in the classroom. But people really care about this stuff, they get their panties in a twist if you use "you" in opposed to "one", when in reality they mean the same thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 27, 2017 Share #338 Posted April 27, 2017 Sorry you misunderstood, I was referring to a comment from jaapv. At no time did I think you were disrespectful. I teach English in a university, one geared toward educators. All of my students have had ten years of English, but even so there english is horrible. On the other hand, I do travel extensively with many friends, whom none of which speak English. So I avail myself with whatever technology that assists in communication. Like the maps app on the iPhone. The problem is updating the hundreds of photos I take with my M. Having built in GPS would be very helpful, I suspect that others feel that way too or the function would not exist at all. I find the restriction of the location of usage to be ridiculous. The T/TL ( and SL) do not have this restriction, but do share the GPS in the common Visoflex. I have and shoot extensively with the M240 and M246. I also have the Multifunction handgrip. It's GPS is so bad I hesitate to buy any camera that has restricted GPS. Last summer I was visiting my family in the states. I was there for about two months and never did the GPS recognize I was out of China. Well, Jaapv meant the comment in a general manner, not aimed at any specific member. Sorry if I misformulated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted April 27, 2017 Share #339 Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) Well, Jaapv meant the comment in a general manner, not aimed at any specific member. Sorry if I misformulated.Then don't reply, just post. It's implied that when you reply it's primarily for the person you are replying to. Using third person passive aggressive is a bit obsolete, and never used when you are speaking in a reply. But in reality, this is trivial compared to the chinglish I deal with in my class... Your Majesty. Edited April 27, 2017 by Soden Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted April 27, 2017 Share #340 Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) Doesn't Soden have a point? Leica provides GPS location on the SL & TL in China. Why not on the M (if this is the case)? Surely he can make that observation without backhanded comments. He has a point doesn't he? Edited April 27, 2017 by IkarusJohn 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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