Finger Loop Question

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I find the Q uncomfortable to shoot one-handed even with the hand grip. I am a street photographer and often shoot holding the flash off-camera in my left hand. I am considering trying the finger loop. Not living close to a Leica dealer, I would have to order the loop but don't have any clue as to the correct size. Do you guys have any thoughts about choosing the proper size loop? If it helps, I am 5'7" and, subjectively speaking, have average size hands. (I know that the Thumbs Up would allow the Q to be held one-handed, but that would cover the hot shoe which I need for the wireless flash trigger.) Thanks.

[Bart van Hofwegen]

I use the Q like you do, street photography and, at times, with the flash in the other hand. Though not cheap, I find the loop very helpful. It solved a lot of issues for me. Use a wrist strap as well, the loop is know to become unscrewed sometimes. As to the size, I only tried the large one, and it serves me fine. I have average hands, I believe. But not being able to try them bothered me as well. I ordered through Internet at a shop that does returns, but no need. Hope this helps. 

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Thanks Bart. May I ask which wrist strap you are using?

[Leica Guy]

I find the Q uncomfortable to shoot one-handed even with the hand grip. I am a street photographer and often shoot holding the flash off-camera in my left hand. I am considering trying the finger loop. Not living close to a Leica dealer, I would have to order the loop but don't have any clue as to the correct size. Do you guys have any thoughts about choosing the proper size loop? If it helps, I am 5'7" and, subjectively speaking, have average size hands. (I know that the Thumbs Up would allow the Q to be held one-handed, but that would cover the hot shoe which I need for the wireless flash trigger.) Thanks.

Could you elaborate a little more on using a flash off camera. Please. Love to see some example photos. I assume you're using a cable or the Q wireless flash. Thanks.

Edited December 20, 2016 by Infiniumguy

[wda]

I tried two loops on other Leica models (M and XV). I found them impossible to use, even the largest was extremely tight on my two fingers. I do not regard my hands as overly large; normally large size gloves fit with ease. I strongly suggest you try before you buy. My dealer was prepared to send me the loops to try after consulting Leica UK on the actual dimensions.

 

For the record, here are the measurements as supplied by Leica in response to my enquiry:

 

Small = 45mm x 18mm
Med = 49mm x20mm
Large = 53mm x22mm

 

This is more meaningful than generalisations.

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The flash I use the most with the Q is a old Nikon SB-15. I like the small size and the fact it can be used in "A" mode (thyristor). (There seems to be too much of an increase in shutter lag with a TTL flash.) My favorite wireless trigger is LightPix Labs FlashQ although sometimes I use my PocketWizard Plus II's. If I feel like I need more flash power or faster recycle, I will use a Canon 580EX II in the thyristor mode. The Canon also allows a wider aperture range and can use an external battery pack. I will post some photos in the next couple of days.

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Erfahrener - Thanks for your comments and the measurements. That is a good starting place. If I order, I will definitely have the understanding with the vendor that I may be returning the loop for a different size.

[Mr.Q]

I've used both the M and L size loops. They dug into my fingers and hurt so bad I had to return them. I wish they were made from a softer material.

[Bart van Hofwegen]

Thanks Bart. May I ask which wrist strap you are using?

I am using a "Tie her up" (seriously...) Komboloy, in black. They have red, too. Shipping may take a while, it comes from Cyprus. I like it. I encountered it here on this form actually, in posts from more than one user.

https://tieherup-camera-straps.myshopify.com/search?q=Komboloi+wrist+straps+%28THU-KW%29

[Bart van Hofwegen]

Could you elaborate a little more on using a flash off camera. Please. Love to see some example photos. I assume you're using a cable or the Q wireless flash. Thanks.

Sorry, I have not that much time right now. I use The LumoPro LP907 Hot shoe adapter. http://lumopro.com/i...ml#.V-0fENwSOPw that only passes through the center contact to eliminate a focus issue I had with my Nikon speedlight. I think you have seen that topic, it is here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/264600-focus-lock-problem-with-flash/

 

If I mount the flash on the camera, the adapter goes in between. I have a Nikon curled extension cord and when using that, I connect the cord directly on the camera and place the adapter between the other end and the flash. That is about it. I always use manual flash, it gives much more control, but takes a little practice. As an extra, I may sometimes use a Rogue Large Softbox kit, it works well. If I were you, I would not buy any of the smaller ones. https://rogueflash.com/collections/rogue-soft-box-kits/products/rogue-flashbender-2-large-soft-box-kit

 

Examples... Sorry, But I have seen some great examples in a number of topics here, so you will have to use search for that. Flash photography with the Q is not intrinsically different then with any other camera.

[Bart van Hofwegen]

There it is, what works for some, does not for others... It is very personal. The actual measurements are a great help though. But the best advice indeed would be to try before buying. I made sure I could return it, but did no in the end...

[Herve5]

Wrist strap only for me.

Simplest and most solid -a recipe I used for all my previous cameras : 20cm of climber's thin rope.

Available in a range of colors, as climbing is fashion, and the full roll costs some €, which would allow for maybe 500 straps ;-)

Weights nothing, folds into any cam package, and if there is one thing I'm sure -with this I'll never drop the cam.

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[wda]

Wrist strap only for me.

Simplest and most solid -a recipe I used for all my previous cameras : 20cm of climber's thin rope.

Available in a range of colors, as climbing is fashion, and the full roll costs some €, which would allow for maybe 500 straps ;-)

Weights nothing, folds into any cam package, and if there is one thing I'm sure -with this I'll never drop the cam.

Yes, I agree. I meant to re-emphasize how reliant I am on my various wrist straps used in conjunction  with the Leica handgrips. The two work well together. Finger tips on the flat plane of the grip and thumb where thumbs usually go, gives me a most relaxed yet secure possession of my camera.