pgk Posted October 20, 2016 Share #21 Posted October 20, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Once you think that you might understand a rule you should probably break it to find out why. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Hi pgk, Take a look here Super Angulon 21mm 3.4 for portraits ?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
NB23 Posted October 20, 2016 Share #22 Posted October 20, 2016 So why the adherence to dull rules? Rules aren't created by stupid motives. Rules simply become, naturally. The earth is round Water is wet Sugar is sweet A big nose is hardly beautiful And so on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted October 20, 2016 Share #23 Posted October 20, 2016 I think that you may be confusing 'facts' and 'opinions' with rules . 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted October 20, 2016 Share #24 Posted October 20, 2016 Rules aren't created by stupid motives. Rules simply become, naturally. The earth is round Water is wet Sugar is sweet A big nose is hardly beautiful And so on I must have missed the rule that said portraits have to be beautiful. Incidentally, over here where I live, a big nose is considered beautiful, and people pay small fortunes to acquire them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted October 20, 2016 Share #25 Posted October 20, 2016 I am a novice and always will be. That, happily, describes me, too. I wouldn't wish it to be otherwise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted October 20, 2016 Share #26 Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) You're a Rules aren't created by stupid motives. Rules simply become, naturally.The earth is roundWater is wetSugar is sweetA big nose is hardly beautifulAnd so on You're absolutely right - if your sole aim is to make beautiful and flattering portraits (e.g. school prom shots, classic Hollywood). Plenty of people want that - that's why Portrait Pro sells. There are other ways of taking portraits. Edited October 20, 2016 by LocalHero1953 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted October 20, 2016 Share #27 Posted October 20, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Rules aren't created by stupid motives. Rules simply become, naturally. The earth is round Water is wet Sugar is sweet A big nose is hardly beautiful And so on These aren't rules. It's a mix of facts (1-3) and opinion (4). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted October 20, 2016 Share #28 Posted October 20, 2016 I must have missed the rule that said portraits have to be beautiful. Incidentally, over here where I live, a big nose is considered beautiful, and people pay small fortunes to acquire them. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder no? I agree that a portrait doesn't have to be beautiful. Far to better to show an insight into a person than show a false idealistic 'beauty'. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estevao69 Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share #29 Posted October 22, 2016 Thanks for all your answers, I've learned a lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2016 Share #30 Posted November 6, 2016 Rules aren't created by stupid motives. Rules simply become, naturally. The earth is round Water is wet Sugar is sweet A big nose is hardly beautiful And so on Works for portraits of elephants tho: makes the trunk look big and the ears look small. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted November 13, 2016 Share #31 Posted November 13, 2016 Is it good? Could you show me some pictures with it? Thanks a lot I stumbled just now in your question... and add to give a contribute with a personal example, to mean that imho it can be good, provided that the peculiarity of 21mm has a sense in the context of what you want to catch, This is an old picture (scan of a 1997 print, M4 with Super Angulon 21 3,4 - probably at 5,6 or 8) , my 10 months old daughter was in that magical phase in which you feel the struggle to stand up on her own feet... to experience what is the world when seen from a different perspective... to see those tall people that are around you from a point from which, at least, you can confront yourself with them with a bit more of freedom.... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ...So even if the perspective is odd, I thought that 21 wasn't bad to evidence that it's all a matter of what is in her HEAD, the struggle, fear and willingness to gain a new experience in her taking the consciousness of the world to which your Young life has to confront with. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ...So even if the perspective is odd, I thought that 21 wasn't bad to evidence that it's all a matter of what is in her HEAD, the struggle, fear and willingness to gain a new experience in her taking the consciousness of the world to which your Young life has to confront with. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/265609-super-angulon-21mm-34-for-portraits/?do=findComment&comment=3147982'>More sharing options...
Estevao69 Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share #32 Posted November 18, 2016 Wonderful photo, Luigi ! It´s exactly what I´d like to see here, photos and impressions about this particulary lens. Grazie 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted November 20, 2016 Share #33 Posted November 20, 2016 I don't have a SA, but I've used a 20 and 15mm lens for some experimental portraits. Personally it didn't work for me, being more of a traditionalist, but if you want to give it a try, why not? You may discover the technique which gives you the results you seek. Some may say the results are unflattering, but that may not be your goal, others may say "wow, that's really creative"! I remember one of the early advocates of the 15mm Heliar, Herb Kaplan, a former newspaper photographer, took hundreds of self portraits showing himself interacting with his environment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diueine Posted November 29, 2016 Share #34 Posted November 29, 2016 As everyone knows, Jeanloup Sieff shot portraits extensively using the 21mm super angulon. It worked really well for him. https://www.jeanloupsieff.com/sieff.html 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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