Estevao69 Posted October 17, 2016 Share #1 Posted October 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is it good? Could you show me some pictures with it? Thanks a lot Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Hi Estevao69, Take a look here Super Angulon 21mm 3.4 for portraits ?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
keithlaban.co.uk Posted October 17, 2016 Share #2 Posted October 17, 2016 Do you like big noses? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted October 18, 2016 Share #3 Posted October 18, 2016 Even a 50mm is a big no-no for portraits (head and shoulders). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted October 18, 2016 Share #4 Posted October 18, 2016 What's with the "portraits must be shot with a long lens" rubbish. Way to conform! There's more than just "head and shoulders" type portraits. I would think that a portrait is a portrayal of a person? In that case, the SA is excellent. Jeanloup Seiff is famous for using a 21mm Super Angulon for some outstanding portraits (He also used a Rolleiflex and a Hasselblad with the 2.8/80mm). I use mine for everything, but I think it is best for photos of people in the 1-2m range. Most of the shots I have like this are of my family, which I don't share online, so I'll link to some portraits from the SA thread on RFF: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2450780&postcount=1034 http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1354151&postcount=293 http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1787773&postcount=607 http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1349171&postcount=274 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwF Posted October 18, 2016 Share #5 Posted October 18, 2016 The 50mm is great for portraits if used correctly. And Michaelwj thank you for those links! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted October 18, 2016 Share #6 Posted October 18, 2016 The 50mm is great for portraits if used correctly. And Michaelwj thank you for those links! I think any lens can be used for portraits if used correctly. They all have their pluses and minuses. And don't forget to go through all 30+ pages of that SA thread!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted October 18, 2016 Share #7 Posted October 18, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wow some pretty nasty distortions there. Phew! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwF Posted October 18, 2016 Share #8 Posted October 18, 2016 One person's nasty is another's pleasure! I find the 50 if used correctly and even the 35 works for "environmental portraits".....just speaking for myself here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted October 18, 2016 Share #9 Posted October 18, 2016 A 10mm can be perfect for "environmental" portraits. But let's stick to the real definition of portrait and the physics of how lenses render. It's all photography 101, really. Usually documented in the first chapter of any photography for dummies book. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estevao69 Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share #10 Posted October 18, 2016 Do you like big noses? Even a 50mm is a big no-no for portraits (head and shoulders). Yes, I know that, obviously. I use basically my Elmarit 90 to portraits, as well. But I know too that its possible as did Jeanloup Seiff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted October 18, 2016 Share #11 Posted October 18, 2016 A 10mm can be perfect for "environmental" portraits. But let's stick to the real definition of portrait and the physics of how lenses render. It's all photography 101, really. Usually documented in the first chapter of any photography for dummies book. Real definition of a portrait? Where's that laid down? If you want a conventional portrait for a corporate headshot with no obvious distortion, flattering the subject, sure, use a 90. If you want to use your imagination, take a different look at someone, show something different about them, use whatever lens you wish. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estevao69 Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share #12 Posted October 18, 2016 I think any lens can be used for portraits if used correctly. They all have their pluses and minuses. And don't forget to go through all 30+ pages of that SA thread!!! Thank you very much ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted October 18, 2016 Share #13 Posted October 18, 2016 A 10mm can be perfect for "environmental" portraits. But let's stick to the real definition of portrait and the physics of how lenses render. It's all photography 101, really. Usually documented in the first chapter of any photography for dummies book. If you want to photograph like a novice, then sure, do what the photography 101 course tells you. Some people are able to progress past the basic settings and take some original and exciting photos. Regarding a longer lens, I find that there is no intimacy, the subject and artist are too far away and most of the time it shows. But hey, if you just want to keep doing the same thing over and over again then go for it. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted October 18, 2016 Share #14 Posted October 18, 2016 A 10mm can be perfect for "environmental" portraits. But let's stick to the real definition of portrait and the physics of how lenses render. It's all photography 101, really. Usually documented in the first chapter of any photography for dummies book. There's nothing like convention. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted October 18, 2016 Share #15 Posted October 18, 2016 And let's not forget that distortion is a function of distance, not angle of view, and that distortion goes two ways. Since when is the ideal to have a flattened face? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted October 20, 2016 Share #16 Posted October 20, 2016 I am a novice and always will be. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted October 20, 2016 Share #17 Posted October 20, 2016 I am a novice and always will be. As are most of us if we compare ourselves conventionally with the great masters, but there's no need to stop trying, to stop using your imagination and experimenting a bit is there? Even if you don't want to, it isn't helpful to advise others to follow old rules all the time. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwF Posted October 20, 2016 Share #18 Posted October 20, 2016 If Debussy stuck to conventional rules of harmony, he's never have liberated the 7th chord from it's tired function as dominant! This is not to suggest one break rules without first understanding them. David 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted October 20, 2016 Share #19 Posted October 20, 2016 As are most of us if we compare ourselves conventionally with the great masters, but there's no need to stop trying, to stop using your imagination and experimenting a bit is there? Even if you don't want to, it isn't helpful to advise others to follow old rules all the time. I am a novice and will eternally stay so. I was an expert, once upon a time, and it was boring and pointless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted October 20, 2016 Share #20 Posted October 20, 2016 I am a novice and will eternally stay so. I was an expert, once upon a time, and it was boring and pointless. So why the adherence to dull rules? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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