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Funny nobody has seen it yet (me included): start wifi on your T camera, connect to it via the iPhone app and voila, Leica TL confirmed by the manufacturer!

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TL has been used by Leica to refer to T camera equipment since the SL came out. The mount is the L mount, but T lenses are referred to as TL mount etc. I think you're reading too much into this. OTOH, I have no doubt a new T will be produced, and it wouldn't surprise me if they referred to it explicitly as the TL.

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TL has been used by Leica to refer to T camera equipment since the SL came out. 

 

That's actually not correct, even the Leica website still refers to the "Leica T" and "Lenses for Leica T", so the only products with the TL name are the two new lenses. Why would they name the App like the mount though?

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That's actually not correct, even the Leica website still refers to the "Leica T" and "Lenses for Leica T", so the only products with the TL name are the two new lenses. Why would they name the App like the mount though?

I can't find a Leica page from last year, but this post implies the TL term was in use last October:

http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2015/10/new-tl-lenses-coming-soon/

I'm not arguing there will be no new T2/TL - I just don't see this as evidence for it  :)

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Ever since the introduction of the SL Leica has used the TL moniker to distinguish the T(L) system from the SL system, but also stress the fact that both share the same L mount (originally christened T mount).

 

Now on the one hand it would make sense to extend this usage so ‘TL’ would also refer to the camera itself. On the other hand, Leica generally prefers one-letter camera names, so it remains to be seen whether the next T will actually be a TL.

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So why did they call the SL as it is? It must be an S with an L mount?

The SL bears a lot of similarity to the S, handling-wise. An ‘S Lite’ so to speak. The Mercedes SL Roadster may have been an inspiration, too.

 

It is the name of the T that is somewhat problematic. The T system had to renamed ‘T camera system’ and renaming everything T-related ‘TL’ would avoid these issues altogether.

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The SL bears a lot of similarity to the S, handling-wise. An ‘S Lite’ so to speak. The Mercedes SL Roadster may have been an inspiration, too.

 

It is the name of the T that is somewhat problematic. The T system had to renamed ‘T camera system’ and renaming everything T-related ‘TL’ would avoid these issues altogether.

 

I thought that S was for Spiegel (mirror) and SL for Spiegellose (mirrorless)

 

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I thought that S was for Spiegel (mirror) and SL for Spiegellose (mirrorless)

There is a multitude of explanations for ‘SL’ (another favourite of mine is SL = SLR – R). Take your pick.

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So, it is past bed time by now in Singapore and where are the new camera(s) announcements?? Only new thing I saw from Leica was announcement of leather goods. Really???? If anyone has any updates, please share. Is looking bleaker there will be a new T. You don't discontinue a camera months before new version is announced. Get the new ones still out there before totally gone. A great buy.

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This (below) from the newsletter of a Leica dealer just returned to North America from Photokina.

 

Please understand that I would not feel comfortable exposing the name of the dealer.

 

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"Taking a page from Apple’s playbook, Leica decided not to announce any significant products. “Ve doo our own events,” Herr Anonymous Hun lectured. “Ztay tuned!”

 

 

"By the winks and nods I saw, at very least it looks like we can expect that a new T series camera and lenses will be announced in 2016." 

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So, it is past bed time by now in Singapore and where are the new camera(s) announcements?? Only new thing I saw from Leica was announcement of leather goods. Really???? If anyone has any updates, please share. Is looking bleaker there will be a new T. You don't discontinue a camera months before new version is announced. Get the new ones still out there before totally gone. A great buy.

 

Leica is typically on a 3 year cycle and the T was only announced in April 2014, so plenty of time still...

 

That being said, I agree, some reassuring words would not hurt...

 

I know of no other company that releases a new lens and then pretty much discontinues the only camera on which you can shoot that lens...

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And yes! The new "T" will be renamed "TL", and therefore, will continue! .... with 4 K video!....

Whether the T successor will support 4K video or not, in the interview Stephan Schulz only talks about 4K video in the context of the SL using TL lenses (these are a good match as the Super 35 format used in 4K mode resembles APS-C).

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Leica is typically on a 3 year cycle and the T was only announced in April 2014, so plenty of time still...

 

That being said, I agree, some reassuring words would not hurt...

 

I know of no other company that releases a new lens and then pretty much discontinues the only camera on which you can shoot that lens...

I agree, however it is strange the it is marked as discontinued at store like B&H before the successor has been announced.

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Strange things happening in the marketing....however I didn't buy the T (event actual prices) for two reasons:   lack of anti-dust system and no possibility with actual firmware to disable exposure simulation which is an important point for me.

 

But I like very much the T shape (of course size and weight) and the interface which I find very interesting. Hope the new model, the TL is similar in shape to the actual T and has a similar interface.

I admit that this kind of communication and or rumors  about discontinuing and a possible new model from one side keep me interested but also looking at what other producer are putting on the market...

 

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Sorry to say I'm in the same boat as Robert, I have sold my T as well.

The indecision of "what's next" plus a buyer that was happy to take it was too much for me. All that remains is a set of strap lugs, not sure what I'll do with them.

And like Robert indicates, it gives the eyes time to wander to other manufacturers. I am eyeing the new Fujis a lot closer now.

Gary

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