Sell R lenses to fund SL lenses purchase? - advice please

[graeme_clarke]

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Hello,

 

I'm seriously contemplating the purchase of an SL!.

 

With regard to lenses I have options and I'd welcome advice from users of the 24-90 and the 90-280 please on funding the purchase of  the 24-90 or both.

 

I have the following R lenses, all mint with boxes, cases and caps presently being used with a R9+DMR whose sensor is showing its age (green line and hot pixels):

 

21-35 ROM asph

28-90 ROM asph

100 f2.8 apo ROM

180 f2.8 apo ROM

280 f4 apoROM

Macro 1:1 adapter for 100mm

2x apo ROM converter.

 

Do I keep all the R lenses and just invest in a R-L converter?

Do I sell the two zoom lenses to fund the purchase of a 24-90, and buy an R-L adapter for the others?

Do I sell the 180, 280 and 2x converter to buy a 90-280 and R-L converter for the 100 macro...

...or do I sell the 100 macro and macro converter as well and just buy the 90-280?

 

I have a Sony A7R that is also showing its age and that I find awkward to use because I have big thumbs and fingers which often make multiple presses on the little control buttons on the back because I cover several at once !!

 

I mainly do natural history and landscape photography with a little "street" photography as well.  Not portraits or weddings!

 

What would you do???

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Graeme

[earleygallery]

Hello,

 

I'm seriously contemplating the purchase of an SL!.

 

With regard to lenses I have options and I'd welcome advice from users of the 24-90 and the 90-280 please on funding the purchase of  the 24-90 or both.

 

I have the following R lenses, all mint with boxes, cases and caps presently being used with a R9+DMR whose sensor is showing its age (green line and hot pixels):

 

21-35 ROM asph

28-90 ROM asph

100 f2.8 apo ROM

180 f2.8 apo ROM

280 f4 apoROM

Macro 1:1 adapter for 100mm

2x apo ROM converter.

 

Do I keep all the R lenses and just invest in a R-L converter?

Do I sell the two zoom lenses to fund the purchase of a 24-90, and buy an R-L adapter for the others?

Do I sell the 180, 280 and 2x converter to buy a 90-280 and R-L converter for the 100 macro...

...or do I sell the 100 macro and macro converter as well and just buy the 90-280?

 

I have a Sony A7R that is also showing its age and that I find awkward to use because I have big thumbs and fingers which often make multiple presses on the little control buttons on the back because I cover several at once !!

 

I mainly do natural history and landscape photography with a little "street" photography as well.  Not portraits or weddings!

 

What would you do???

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Graeme

 

I don't have an SL but do use an R system.

 

If I were in your position and set on buying an SL I'd trade the lot in and buy the two SL lenses, to take advantage of the AF system and not have to deal with stop down metering/viewing (yes I know the EVF will compensate but still).

 

Maybe buy a 50 Summicron or Summilux to have a fast prime as an addition though.

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What would you do???

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Graeme

 

Hi Graeme,

 

I am using an SL with two R lenses 100 and 60 Macro + various M lenses. Works flawlessly with these lenses I have beautiful set up.

 

I would look subjectively at your list of lenses. Which ones to do you love the most and therefore use the most? I would keep those, sell the rest and buy an SL, you will not regret it unless of course

you want to move up to MF and the S, then you need to sell the lot and and a few limbs......

[Ivar B]

Hello,

 

I'm seriously contemplating the purchase of an SL!.

 

With regard to lenses I have options and I'd welcome advice from users of the 24-90 and the 90-280 please on funding the purchase of  the 24-90 or both.

 

I have the following R lenses, all mint with boxes, cases and caps presently being used with a R9+DMR whose sensor is showing its age (green line and hot pixels):

 

21-35 ROM asph

28-90 ROM asph

100 f2.8 apo ROM

180 f2.8 apo ROM

280 f4 apoROM

Macro 1:1 adapter for 100mm

2x apo ROM converter.

 

Do I keep all the R lenses and just invest in a R-L converter?

Do I sell the two zoom lenses to fund the purchase of a 24-90, and buy an R-L adapter for the others?

Do I sell the 180, 280 and 2x converter to buy a 90-280 and R-L converter for the 100 macro...

...or do I sell the 100 macro and macro converter as well and just buy the 90-280?

 

I have a Sony A7R that is also showing its age and that I find awkward to use because I have big thumbs and fingers which often make multiple presses on the little control buttons on the back because I cover several at once !!

 

I mainly do natural history and landscape photography with a little "street" photography as well.  Not portraits or weddings!

 

What would you do???

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Graeme

 

If I were you, I would not sell the 4/280. You would regret that (I know from experience). Selling the zoom lenses and go for the 24-90 is something I would consider.

[jaapv]

If I were you, I would not sell the 4/280. You would regret that (I know from experience). Selling the zoom lenses and go for the 24-90 is something I would consider.

Ivar is right. That is a cold clammy hands lens. I much regret selling mine, years ago.

[luigi bertolotti]

Well... my idea is that if one invests in a SL, is a pity not to enjoy AF... after all, is a very distinguishing feature in comparision with M (and R too, in your case... sorry, I I'm prone to think Always in "M-mood"..  ) : so, surely find the way to have the 24/90 , even renouncing to a (probably) useful lens like the 21-35; but... about the 90-280 I have some doubt... is a bulky/heavy lens... I have the feeling that using it in the range 90-135 seems a bit unnatural for such a massive item (just my feel... no experience at all with zooms) .. and you have an excellent prime 280 which, as Others say, is really a pity to sell away : weight is almost the same, but another of my fixed ideas is that a long tele will be always "cleaner" with 7 pieces of glass instead of 23...

Edited September 14, 2016 by luigi bertolotti

[darylgo]

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I wouldn't sell any of the incredible glass you own, the 100mm macro, 180 Apo and 280 Apo are superb performers and can't be easily replaced.  Sell the 28-90, it is highly overpriced, sell the 21-35 although it is small and convenient.  I am a prime lens user, if you like zooms better and are willing to give up quality for convenience then you might do the opposite but I would never sell those precious primes.  

[ramarren]

Given that set of lenses, I'd buy the SL24-90, sell the two R zooms, buy the R Adapter L, and keep the rest. It's basically how I can use my kit ... The SL24-90 is a great all-around lens, I get OIS and AF with it; and for macro, longer, or wider I use R primes.

 

Focusing manually is such a delight on the SL that I most of the time keep the SL24-90 in MF too. :-)

Edited September 14, 2016 by ramarren

[Sandokan]

Everyone here who has sold lenses (especially ones as special as yours) always regrets it, and when it comes to buying them back, all have appreciated in value. 

 

The SL will be worth almost half its current price when the next model is released. 

 

Your 28-90 could well pay for the SL just by itself. Definitely pays for the SL zooms. 

[thighslapper]

I'd keep the 280, x2 converter and the 100 macro ........  and liquidate the rest ....... and the Sony ....... every little helps (*)

 

Get the SL and both zooms..... the 90-280 is big, but not as big as you might imagine and produces startlingly good results .... and remember you get OIS which makes both zooms 3+ stops faster  in reality. 

 

The R 280 and the x2 gives you 280mm and 560mm image quality you won't get elsewhere at any price, plus the 100/2.8 gives macro at 100mm/200mm ...... and you could pick up an ELPRO quite cheaply to extend that further. 

 

Go for it.... 

 

* I just sold a whole heap of leftover Nikon, Fuji and Sony gear, adapters, lenses, plus 2 leica M's and X-Vario ........ looking at things individually it didn't look that worthwhile ...... but I eventually netted close on 12k GBP with 2/3 of that on eBay ..... for all it's faults it was a painless way to shift what I thought was mostly unsellable ....

Edited September 14, 2016 by thighslapper

[ramarren]

I'd keep the 280, x2 converter and the 100 macro ........  and liquidate the rest ....... and the Sony ....... every little helps (*)

 

Get the SL and both zooms..... the 90-280 is big, but not as big as you might imagine and produces startlingly good results .... and remember you get OIS which makes both zooms 3+ stops faster  in reality. 

 

The R 280 and the x2 gives you 280mm and 560mm image quality you won't get elsewhere at any price, plus the 100/2.8 gives macro at 100mm/200mm ...... and you could pick up an ELPRO quite cheaply to extend that further. 

 

Go for it.... 

 

* I just sold a whole heap of leftover Nikon, Fuji and Sony gear, adapters, lenses, plus 2 leica M's and X-Vario ........ looking at things individually it didn't look that worthwhile ...... but I eventually netted close on 12k GBP with 2/3 of that on eBay ..... for all it's faults it was a painless way to shift what I thought was mostly unsellable ....

 

 

Yup, I have to do that too. I think I've got easily US$15,000 worth of excess stuff floating around here, and I need to buy another car. (Someone hit mine on Monday, and it's going to be too expensive to repair. Dammit.  )

[Arif]

I would sell the two R zooms and buy the 24-90 first as well as the R-adapter so you can play and find out how you feel about manual focus once you get used to the AF (may not be as important for your style of shooting but I do portraits mainly and often need faster AF for moving subjects).  I also have the 280/4 but bought the 90-280 (while keeping the 280/4 for now).  The AF capabilities really help my shooting plus the glass is very good.  Another thing that I am starting to really like is the ability to use my S-lenses on the SL.  You can buy S-lenses relatively cheap if you go for the non-CS version which is perfect for SL.  Unless you do a lot of 1:1 macro work the S-120 on the SL is very good which means that you can eventually sell your 100 like I did (blasphemy but practical)

[scott kirkpatrick]

Hello,

 

I'm seriously contemplating the purchase of an SL!.

 

With regard to lenses I have options and I'd welcome advice from users of the 24-90 and the 90-280 please on funding the purchase of  the 24-90 or both.

 

I have the following R lenses, all mint with boxes, cases and caps presently being used with a R9+DMR whose sensor is showing its age (green line and hot pixels):

 

21-35 ROM asph

28-90 ROM asph

100 f2.8 apo ROM

180 f2.8 apo ROM

280 f4 apoROM

Macro 1:1 adapter for 100mm

2x apo ROM converter.

 

Do I keep all the R lenses and just invest in a R-L converter?

Do I sell the two zoom lenses to fund the purchase of a 24-90, and buy an R-L adapter for the others?

Do I sell the 180, 280 and 2x converter to buy a 90-280 and R-L converter for the 100 macro...

...or do I sell the 100 macro and macro converter as well and just buy the 90-280?

 

I have a Sony A7R that is also showing its age and that I find awkward to use because I have big thumbs and fingers which often make multiple presses on the little control buttons on the back because I cover several at once !!

 

I mainly do natural history and landscape photography with a little "street" photography as well.  Not portraits or weddings!

 

What would you do???

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Graeme

 

All of those work beautifully on the SL.  And it sounds as if your needs are met by careful focus, or prefocus on the street.  Keep them all.  (Maybe get some more?) Since you have mostly ROM-chipped R lenses and didn't list M lenses, the new direct R to SL adapter that supports the ROM will be worth the money.

 

scott

[andreleon]

Hi , I have the SL with its 24-90 ,  various M lenses , and  all the R lenses you intend to sell.  .Yesterday I could compare these optics so I can say that if I were you I should not do that. All your R lenses are lighter, smaller, and at least as good if not some of them better (100mmmacro ...).The only advantage of the 24-90 is the stab and AF. But MF with the SL is very easy . Buy the SL and an adapter and enjoy. Regards.

[Leicaiste]

Hello,

 

I'm seriously contemplating the purchase of an SL!.

 

With regard to lenses I have options and I'd welcome advice from users of the 24-90 and the 90-280 please on funding the purchase of  the 24-90 or both.

 

I have the following R lenses, all mint with boxes, cases and caps presently being used with a R9+DMR whose sensor is showing its age (green line and hot pixels):

 

21-35 ROM asph

28-90 ROM asph

100 f2.8 apo ROM

180 f2.8 apo ROM

280 f4 apoROM

Macro 1:1 adapter for 100mm

2x apo ROM converter.

 

Do I keep all the R lenses and just invest in a R-L converter?

Do I sell the two zoom lenses to fund the purchase of a 24-90, and buy an R-L adapter for the others?

Do I sell the 180, 280 and 2x converter to buy a 90-280 and R-L converter for the 100 macro...

...or do I sell the 100 macro and macro converter as well and just buy the 90-280?

 

I have a Sony A7R that is also showing its age and that I find awkward to use because I have big thumbs and fingers which often make multiple presses on the little control buttons on the back because I cover several at once !!

 

I mainly do natural history and landscape photography with a little "street" photography as well.  Not portraits or weddings!

 

What would you do???

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Graeme

 

 

I use the SL since December with a similar R lenses set-up (21-35, 28-90, 70-180, 280/2,8, Apo-Extenders and some other fixed focal lenses.)

 

And I have an SL 24-90 on loan from a friend since a few weeks.

 

I much prefer the ergonomic and the size of the R 21-35 and 28-90.

 

I really hate the lens hood and the size of the SL 24-90. 

 

I also have an ergonomic problem with where the release button for the SL lenses is located on the camera.

 

I always have to remove my hand from the hand-strap to be able to remove the SL lens.

 

It is much easier to always leave the R to SL adapter on the camera.

 

But the IS and AF are real bonus.

 

I suspect that one day I will sell the 70-180, 280 2,8 and the extender 1,4 x and buy the 90-280.

 

And if I find a second hand 24-90 for a good price !

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[sillbeers15]

Hello,

 

I'm seriously contemplating the purchase of an SL!.

 

With regard to lenses I have options and I'd welcome advice from users of the 24-90 and the 90-280 please on funding the purchase of  the 24-90 or both.

 

I have the following R lenses, all mint with boxes, cases and caps presently being used with a R9+DMR whose sensor is showing its age (green line and hot pixels):

 

21-35 ROM asph

28-90 ROM asph

100 f2.8 apo ROM

180 f2.8 apo ROM

280 f4 apoROM

Macro 1:1 adapter for 100mm

2x apo ROM converter.

 

Do I keep all the R lenses and just invest in a R-L converter?

Do I sell the two zoom lenses to fund the purchase of a 24-90, and buy an R-L adapter for the others?

Do I sell the 180, 280 and 2x converter to buy a 90-280 and R-L converter for the 100 macro...

...or do I sell the 100 macro and macro converter as well and just buy the 90-280?

 

I have a Sony A7R that is also showing its age and that I find awkward to use because I have big thumbs and fingers which often make multiple presses on the little control buttons on the back because I cover several at once !!

 

I mainly do natural history and landscape photography with a little "street" photography as well.  Not portraits or weddings!

 

What would you do???

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Graeme

I admit I still keep my Vario Elmar R 80mm-200mm zoom and APO R180mm Elmarit but I find them redundent as eversince I acquired VE 24mm-90mm & VE 90mm-280mm SL lens I do not use my manual focus R zooms and teles anymore. But for short focal length lenses which I use for landscape and potrait ahots, I'm more comfortable keeping my manual focus prime M lenses as I would turn off AF for landscape shots even if I were to use my 24mm-90mm. Besides the AF lenses, no matter how good they are, they belong to the same category as electronic/digital cameras. Time has no mercy on them due to the limited life span of the electronics components and technology cause them to be obsolete in no time. Just as if you still have a GSM mobile phone that works, it is obsolute due to no network support!

Edited September 15, 2016 by sillbeers15

[Belle123]

Keep all and invest in an R-L ring. Simple. If you need to sell to afford, that is total different answer. If you can afford it, buy the SL then decide what to keep. I made the mistake years ago of trading in all my R lenses except for the 100 Apo macro that I will be buried with. Would not sell the rest if had it to do over again.

[steppenw0lf]

Instead of telling you what to sell, I would rather like to know first why you want to sell them.

No money for the SL (or not enough of it) ? Fed-up of the old lenses? Bad eyesight and therefore dependent on AF ?

If we know more details, a more useful hint can be given.

 

I usually do not sell anything. I am not good at it. And I simply do not like the process. And I still love the old lenses (not all at the same time and with the same intensity). So it also depends on your history of buying them and on your being a "good salesperson" or rather not.

Instead I decided to stick longer with my old car - and so I have still my complete lens collection, even a few more than before.

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[tobey bilek]

Instead of buyers remorse, you will get sellers remorse.  You have a full set of the best lenses made and once you save for the SL you will regret not having those lenses.