Price on 50mm 0.95 Noctilux?

[dancook]

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I'm becoming a little obsessed with owning one of these.. 

 

Was considering a Leica M9 to go with it.

 

Is there a price guideline for one of these used? I'm in the UK, Red Dot Cameras have one for £5500.

 

The ones on eBay all seem a bit dodgy... with all sales I found having negative feedback.

 

I am not in a rush, since I only have half that in the bank - so will have to keep saving, just wanted to keep an eye out for a 'bargain'

[Clactonian]

That is probably about the right price from a UK retail outlet, depending on condition.

Fffordes have a couple too but the mint version is £6,000+ !

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[dancook]

Thanks, I am a fickle creature.. and maybe I want the 50mm APO instead..

[BITEMEDEA]

Thanks, I am a fickle creature.. and maybe I want the 50mm APO instead..

 

For what it's worth...

I had both at the same time. Ended up trading the 50mm APO for a 28mm Summilux to go with my .95 Noctilux.

Edited September 6, 2016 by BITEMEDEA

[dancook]

For what it's worth...

I had both at the same time. Ended up trading the 50mm APO for a 28mm Summilux to go with my .95 Noctilux.

I have a leica Q, so yes pair it up with noxtilux thanks

[dpitt]

Sorry for asking, but... Is this going to be your first Leica M digital camera and lens?

Edited September 7, 2016 by dpitt

[dancook]

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Sorry for asking, but... Is this going to be your first Leica M digital camera and lens?

 

first Leica Rangerfinder camera.. yes

 

I've had leica lenses on A7S and have a Leica Q

[dpitt]

first Leica Rangerfinder camera.. yes

 

I've had leica lenses on A7S and have a Leica Q

I understand the lure of the noctilux... But I would advise you to consider a compromise.

You have the Q so Leica M with 28 to 35mm would not bring much.

 

So it makes sense to go for 50mm and longer where cropping the Q will not be viable. It would also bring playing with small DOF to the table.

Having said that, a Summicron 50 would already have sufficient small DOF for most pictures. For 90 mm F4.0 is enough.

IMO the 50 Summilux and 90 Elmarit are on the limit of useability of DOF. So in stead of going for the Noctilux, why not start with an M9 and a nice 50 Summilux, and start shooting right away. Then decide if you really want a smaller DOF and much heigher weight.

 

I guess you would rather want to buy a 90 mm Tele-Elmarit M or 90mm Macro-ELmar M as a second lens, (actually your Q would be your third lens 28-35mm and macro)

Edited September 7, 2016 by dpitt

[jaapv]

first Leica Rangerfinder camera.. yes

 

I've had leica lenses on A7S and have a Leica Q

 

Noctilux... Well a rather special and thus specialised lens - not the simplest to master as a first RF experience. I would, like others, advise you to try a Summilux first.

[BITEMEDEA]

I have a leica Q, so yes pair it up with noxtilux thanx 

The Q kind of looks like an M with .95 Noctilux. 

[dancook]

I understand the lure of the noctilux... But I would advise you to consider a compromise.

You have the Q so Leica M with 28 to 35mm would not bring much.

 

So it makes sense to go for 50mm and longer where cropping the Q will not be viable. It would also bring playing with small DOF to the table.

Having said that, a Summicron 50 would already have sufficient small DOF for most pictures. For 90 mm F4.0 is enough.

IMO the 50 Summilux and 90 Elmarit are on the limit of useability of DOF. So in stead of going for the Noctilux, why not start with an M9 and a nice 50 Summilux, and start shooting right away. Then decide if you really want a smaller DOF and much heigher weight.

 

I guess you would rather want to buy a 90 mm Tele-Elmarit M or 90mm Macro-ELmar M as a second lens, (actually your Q would be your third lens 28-35mm and macro)

 

I've had 200mm f2, 35mm f1.2, 85mm f1.2 lenses on a full frame body, I am quite the bokeh/subject isolation addict but I will think on what you've said.

 

I understand the rangerfinder will bring something new.

 

I did quite like the 90mm CRON I've had previously, so maybe I will pick another up.

 

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[james.liam]

Thanks, I am a fickle creature.. and maybe I want the 50mm APO instead..

 

 

In day-to-day usage, probably a more practicable choice, with the Noctilux rented on an as-needed basis. 

[thestatesman]

I see what you mean about all the negative feedback on ebay. After my last terrible ebay/paypal transaction I decided "no more ebay, no more paypal" it's become too risky a venture.

Edited September 8, 2016 by thestatesman

[dancook]

In day-to-day usage, probably a more practicable choice, with the Noctilux rented on an as-needed basis. 

 

'as-needed' depends on my mood  

[Robert M Poole]

Have you considered a Voigtlander Nokton? Might be a cheaper alternative to see if you like it? Always the option of upgrading later.

Edited September 8, 2016 by Robert M Poole

[adamdewilde]

You might want to consider 75APO. A 90 is infinitely harder to focus on a RF then the 75. The 75 gives you .7m focusing vs .9 on the 90. And if you like bokeh at 1m and closer distances the 75 gives you thinner DOF then the Noctilux. The Noct. only focuses to 1m which is limiting.

 

And to all those people who told you a 50Lux is a good idea.. Don't listen. It's probably the single most difficult lens for a first time RF user. It has mid zone dips which means that focusing and recomposing and shooting is almost impossible for a first time RF user (coming from an A7 that allows you to zoom focus on any point). Much better off getting a Noctilux at that point. Though the 50APO is a damn sound choice, it's also quite an acquired taste for the price. You'll get your best bang for the buck going with a 50 Summicron non-apo. But I still think with a Q in hand a M + 75APO is the way to go. Since chances are your grab shots will be with the Q, the 75APO will be good for further away details and when your subject is willing to stand still and pose (portrait lens for portraits, get it).

 

Anyway up to you...

[cirke]

if you have the money go for it , it's a bit tricky to get 0.95 in focus but after a very short time you will master it

I sold mine after one year to get the 50 apo , and I dont regret it , the noctilux effect is a little like long exposure on waterfall

[Peter Kilmister]

IMO the Noctilux is too big, too heavy, and blocks the viewfinder. I sold mine and received a 50 APO Cron in part-exchange.

Now I am happy. A small, light, wonderful lens that knocks spots off carting around a 700 gram lens.

 

Unless you are young, fit, and strong the Nocti needs to be used in a studio. If you are elderly, and like to walk a lot then the APO Cron is a much better choice.

 

Your opinion may differ. I respect that.

[dancook]

IMO the Noctilux is too big, too heavy, and blocks the viewfinder. I sold mine and received a 50 APO Cron in part-exchange.

Now I am happy. A small, light, wonderful lens that knocks spots off carting around a 700 gram lens.

 

Unless you are young, fit, and strong the Nocti needs to be used in a studio. If you are elderly, and like to walk a lot then the APO Cron is a much better choice.

 

Your opinion may differ. I respect that.

 

I'm 33 and hit the gym 4-5 times a week but I understand that enthusiasm wanes when you've been carrying around a brick all day.

 

Incidentally I have also started considering the Leica SL, and the 50mm 1.4 which is due to come out this year.

 

Photography is mostly a hobby, but I second shoot weddings - a Leica SL could replace my Nikon D750 and be something I would want to use for personal pleasure alongside my Leica Q.

 

I understand the Noctilux 0.95 works well on the SL, but if I'm going to consider replacing my D750 - autofocus will be a boon

Edited September 13, 2016 by dancook

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[pico]

I'm 33 and hit the gym 4-5 times a week but I understand that enthusiasm wanes when you've been carrying around a brick all day.

 

I've been 33 twice plus 4 years, and I have no trouble schlepping a big lens Leica all days, but the reason is

because while I use a nice custom leather strap, I also use Leica's shoulder pad on it.  It stays on my skinny

shoulder very nicely, and the padding is just right. Hope this helps others.