kengai Posted August 9, 2016 Share #1 Posted August 9, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) it makes sense to buy a Elmar 2.8 / 50mm after having two Summicron? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a.noctilux Posted August 9, 2016 Share #2 Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) Yes, one has never enough Leica lenses. Next would be Summilux then Noctilux one in black and one silver regards, Arnaud (I do use some different 50mm and 5cm also, Leica or not : Noctilux, Summilux, Summicron, Elmar, Summar, Anastigmat, so on...) Edited August 9, 2016 by a.noctilux Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpitt Posted August 9, 2016 Share #3 Posted August 9, 2016 If you do not have a collapsible lens yet, it would be the most pocketable solution. Even if you have the old 50cron collapsible, the Elmar has a different character. The Elmar F3.5 50mm is even more compact and is sharper than the F2.8 version. Just buy a post war version to get coating for color. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 10, 2016 Share #4 Posted August 10, 2016 Sure it makes sense. The Elmar (i mean the last one) has a special IQ that no Summicron i know of exhibits including the 50/2 apo. Matter of tastes but if you like that look your Elmar will tend to stick on your camera the same way as it does on both my M240 and Sony A7s mod. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuhau Posted August 10, 2016 Share #5 Posted August 10, 2016 Can the 50 / 2.8 be retracted fully when using M240 and SL ? I have the lens but never dared to retracted into the body . I have been using it only in the extended way . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenf Posted August 10, 2016 Share #6 Posted August 10, 2016 I've been looking for a very late six bit 50/2.8 Elmar-M for months. Hopefully I can find one while I'm still young enough to enjoy it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 10, 2016 Share #7 Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Can the 50 / 2.8 be retracted fully when using M240 and SL ? I have the lens but never dared to retracted into the body . I have been using it only in the extended way . Recurrent question. You will find several answers if you use the search function. In one word, most users consider it can be retracted. As far as i'm aware, none of them has ever tried to trigger the shutter in that position. Edited August 10, 2016 by lct 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 10, 2016 Share #8 Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) I've been looking for a very late six bit 50/2.8 Elmar-M for months. Hopefully I can find one while I'm still young enough to enjoy it! Hard to find. It would take you less time to enjoy an earlier copy and have it coded by a good workshop, unless you're a collector of course . Edited August 10, 2016 by lct 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted August 10, 2016 Share #9 Posted August 10, 2016 Great little lens. No problems retracted on MM9, Monochrome and M240. Has been asked before. It performs very well compared to it's big new brothers: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/246073-add-elmar-m-50-or-rigid-summicron-to-summilux-50-asph/ see post 6 and onward for comparisons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayewing Posted August 11, 2016 Share #10 Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) I was fortunate enough to find a late Elmar-M 1:2.8/50 coded in excellent condition. I now prefer it to my Summilux 50mm Asp unless for low light use. Collapsed it is very compact and, I think looks rather gorgeous. This may be due to nostalgia as my first Leica was an M2 with collapsible Elmar 50. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 11, 2016 by ayewing 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/263336-elmar-2850mm/?do=findComment&comment=3094693'>More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted August 11, 2016 Share #11 Posted August 11, 2016 Looks good. I was really impressed with its sharpness and contrast, but my copy of the lens kept drifting when collapsed, and I ended up getting rid of it. Hopefully yours is better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted August 12, 2016 Share #12 Posted August 12, 2016 Hmm... On my mission to reduce my lens count I have my coded copy for sale, I think they are great value and agree on the rendering, it has a bite to it somehow more texture than say the summicron. It's also super small, super light and super quick to focus. However 1/500th works for relaxing but not enough for racing. Both at f4.0 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/263336-elmar-2850mm/?do=findComment&comment=3094929'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 12, 2016 Share #13 Posted August 12, 2016 Recurrent question. You will find several answers if you use the search function. In one word, most users consider it can be retracted. As far as i'm aware, none of them has ever tried to trigger the shutter in that position. I have, accidentally, a number of times. Not a problem at all. If it cannot hit the shutter on film, it cannot hit the shutter on a sensor as the register distance is (must be!) the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 12, 2016 Share #14 Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) I have, accidentally, a number of times. Not a problem at all. If it cannot hit the shutter on film, it cannot hit the shutter on a sensor as the register distance is (must be!) the same. Good to know but register is the distance from the rear of the lens to the sensor, not the shutter of course which is a moving part above the latter. Are you sure your lens was focussed an infinity when you triggered the shutter whilst it was retracted? Just curious as i'm not brave enough to try that personally. Edited August 12, 2016 by lct Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldhrads Posted August 12, 2016 Share #15 Posted August 12, 2016 I have one, use it occaisionally, it is a great little lens. When I got the APO summicron 50 ASPH I said to myself I'd sell my old V4 summicron and the 50 elmar, haven't gotten around to that yet....probably wont! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenf Posted August 12, 2016 Share #16 Posted August 12, 2016 Hmm... On my mission to reduce my lens count I have my coded copy for sale, I think they are great value and agree on the rendering, it has a bite to it somehow more texture than say the summicron. It's also super small, super light and super quick to focus. However 1/500th works for relaxing but not enough for racing. Both at f4.0 Check your messages, please... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted August 12, 2016 Share #17 Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) I've been looking for a very late six bit 50/2.8 Elmar-M for months. Hopefully I can find one while I'm still young enough to enjoy it! I think,stress think as I don't know for sure, that there are probably few factory coded copies as the lens went out of production in 2007 and the M8 was introduced in 2006, so they only overlap a year. My uncoded version works fine, and you can easily input the lens manually. You will have more options going for a uncoded version. More important for me was to get a chrome copy, as according to Puts they are much better built. Edited August 12, 2016 by pedaes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 13, 2016 Share #18 Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) [...] More important for me was to get a chrome copy, as according to Puts they are much better built. Don't recall what Puts said exactly but i've got three copies of the last 50/2.8, one silver (with the M6J) and two black chrome with silver barrel. All uncoded and superbly built. Edited August 13, 2016 by lct Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvaliquette Posted August 13, 2016 Share #19 Posted August 13, 2016 I purchased my Elmar-M new ,on February 19, 2008, when it was announced that it was being retired. It was factory-coded. I've retracted it safely on all my Ms, from 3 to 240. It is my most used travel lens. Guy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stein K S Posted August 15, 2016 Share #20 Posted August 15, 2016 Hi I have both in silver. And I will definitely continue to have both ;-). I fully agree with IWC that that little thing has some ¨bite¨ that the Cron don' t. And collapsed it is SMALL... even smaller that 35 cron V4 and elmarit 28 asph. One thing, though... mine rattles! I sent it to Leica and it was rattle free for a few months but rattling is now back (I bought it new early 2000 and it is not very much used). And I even have this feeling that the ¨heavy¨ brass makes the rattling even more profound... A bit annoying, but what the heck... still like it very much. Collapsing on M9 never a problem... as others also thoroughly confirm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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