stuny Posted June 21, 2016 Share #1 Posted June 21, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've found that I can use the "intelligent zoom" on the 114 V-Lux with good results to extend the optical zoom range when neded. What's your experience with this using the 109? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mikemgb Posted June 21, 2016 Share #2 Posted June 21, 2016 I always switch digital zoom off, it has been my experience in the past that cameras have not been good at the interpolation necessary at extreme zooms, I'd also be interested in knowing if this is not the case on this camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share #3 Posted June 21, 2016 Mike - Prior to my 114 that was my experience. The 109 is newer, so who knows? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted June 22, 2016 Share #4 Posted June 22, 2016 Well since I read your post I switched iZoom on, I guess I'll see. I left Digital Zoom off though, I cannot imagine the results would be good at 300mm. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Braun Posted June 22, 2016 Share #5 Posted June 22, 2016 I've found that I can use the "intelligent zoom" on the 114 V-Lux with good results to extend the optical zoom range when neded. What's your experience with this using the 109? The iZoom of the D-Lux 109 works pretty well. The only restriction is that it's available only for JPGs. I've performed tests comparing images taken with iZoom with cropped images from a corresponding (same focal length, same scenery) RWL and couldn't find substantial differences. The major advantage of the iZoom is the ability to chose the image frame in the field which gives better control of the situation. And you have a finished image right ooc without cropping on the computer. Andreas 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhsimmonds Posted June 22, 2016 Share #6 Posted June 22, 2016 I have always considered that any form of digital zoom is to be avoided until I used a Sony A700 camera in South Africa's Kruger park. The Sony had a button marked 1.4/2.0 converter. I used it to take a picture of a White Rhino way in the distance and I was well pleased with the result. It worked by one press of the button for 1.4x or two presses for 2.0x. The camera returned to normal so to use it again required the button to be set again. Manufacturers have realised that digital zoom are dirty words to experienced photographers and have therefore have come up with other names to provide the same thing! Technology has moved on so much that the quality is now acceptable for some images and subjects. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Braun Posted June 22, 2016 Share #7 Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Well since I read your post I switched iZoom on, I guess I'll see. I left Digital Zoom off though, I cannot imagine the results would be good at 300mm. You are right: beyond the 2x factor of the iZoom the image quality with Digital Zoom (larger than 2x) will be visibly degraded. Therefore, if focal lengths of more than 150mm are seriously considered the D-Lux 109 isn't recommended. Before the 109 my camera was the Sony NEX-6 with the kit zoom 24mm to 75mm and an equally good iZoom up to 150mm. From analyzing the image data I've seen that I'm a short focal length guy without much need for more than 75mm. This experience encouraged me to instantly be interested in the D-Lux when it was announced in September 2014. Now after 14 months with the 109 the statistics looks like this: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! All pics used for this analysis are from the collections intended to keep (vacations, family gatherings, hikings), not from the many hundreds of test shots. Therefore, this analysis is the result of my real requirements. Andreas Edited June 22, 2016 by Andreas Braun 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! All pics used for this analysis are from the collections intended to keep (vacations, family gatherings, hikings), not from the many hundreds of test shots. Therefore, this analysis is the result of my real requirements. Andreas ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/261868-does-the-109-do-this-like-my-114/?do=findComment&comment=3065999'>More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted June 22, 2016 Share #8 Posted June 22, 2016 You are right: beyond the 2x factor of the iZoom the image quality with Digital Zoom (larger than 2x) will be visibly degraded. Therefore, if focal lengths of more than 150mm are seriously considered the D-Lux 109 isn't recommended. Before the 109 my camera was the Sony NEX-6 with the kit zoom 24mm to 75mm and an equally good iZoom up to 150mm. From analyzing the image data I've seen that I'm a short focal length guy without much need for more than 75mm. This experience encouraged me to instantly be interested in the D-Lux when it was announced in September 2014. Now after 14 months with the 109 the statistics looks like this: Analyse Juni 2016.jpg All pics used for this analysis are from the collections intended to keep (vacations, family gatherings, hikings), not from the many hundreds of test shots. Therefore, this analysis is the result of my real requirements. Andreas What program did you use to get these statistics? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Braun Posted June 23, 2016 Share #9 Posted June 23, 2016 What program did you use to get these statistics? The program is a Freeware called "ExposurePlot" see here: http://www.vandel.nl/exposureplot.html Andreas Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted June 24, 2016 Share #10 Posted June 24, 2016 The program is a Freeware called "ExposurePlot" see here: http://www.vandel.nl/exposureplot.html Andreas Thank you Andreas, I ran this software today, the line on the left is scans with no data, the rest doesn't help my choice much! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/261868-does-the-109-do-this-like-my-114/?do=findComment&comment=3067169'>More sharing options...
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