Neko Posted May 19, 2016 Share #1 Posted May 19, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) HI guys, I´m really intrigued by the number of pixels coming with the next M. The question is not about how many megapixels do you want. Is more about what do you think Leica will do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve Ricoh Posted May 19, 2016 Share #2 Posted May 19, 2016 There seems to be a senseless ambition by manufacturers to increase the number of MP because that's what sells cameras. But increasing the number decreases the size of photon buckets, for a given chip size (assuming FF 35mm). I suspect the people at Leica will resist the senseless increase in MP and go for greater DR and higher / lower ISO capability (resisting the use of the word 'hope'). 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted May 19, 2016 Share #3 Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) I would guess - from Leica's past behavior - that the next M will simply switch to the SL sensor. Still 24 Mpixels - but perhaps "better" pixels in terms of DR and noise and ISO and such. (Haven't seen much SL output to judge). But it somewhat depends on when Leica introduces the next significant M upgrade - if not this year, the whole 24x36 line (M, Q, SL) may get upgraded together to one totally new sensor. Edited May 19, 2016 by adan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 19, 2016 Share #4 Posted May 19, 2016 Leica will do what they will do. What we think they may do is not really relevant as one may as well get out a deck of Tarot cards. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 19, 2016 Share #5 Posted May 19, 2016 I would guess - from Leica's past behavior - that the next M will simply switch to the SL sensor. Still 24 Mpixels - but perhaps "better" pixels in terms of DR and noise and ISO and such. (Haven't seen much SL output to judge). I think the sensor will be more biased towards M lenses. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted May 20, 2016 Share #6 Posted May 20, 2016 Can say I'm good with what I have, 24M is fine. I could use more dynamic range. I think the sensor will be more biased towards M lenses. Does this mean that the current lens line up is made for the current sensor's range? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 20, 2016 Share #7 Posted May 20, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) No, it means that the sensors of all digital M cameras have been designed to perform optimally with all M lenses, including the vintage ones, as much as possible. I don't see Leica deviating from the principle of retro-compatability. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted May 20, 2016 Share #8 Posted May 20, 2016 No, it means that the sensors of all digital M cameras have been designed to perform optimally with all M lenses, including the vintage ones, as much as possible. I don't see Leica deviating from the principle of retro-compatability. Thanks First time in my life I'm completely happy with the camera I have. ....Life is good.... I like my car too 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azuled Posted May 20, 2016 Share #9 Posted May 20, 2016 While unlikely, it's also entirely possible that we could wake up to a 50mp M i don't think it will happen, but it points out the range between possible and likely. There are off the shelf 50mp full frame sensors right now, but Canon and Nikon continue to produce lower mp cameras because specific markets aren't buying based on mp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted May 20, 2016 Share #10 Posted May 20, 2016 Wouldn't matter to me one way or another. I'm happy with 24Mpixel, and with the current M/M-P typ 240 sensor. I could be even happier with the M-D typ 262 body, given that I have the SL for all the more versatile things that cameras can do. I see my M as a very specific-use kind of tool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted May 20, 2016 Share #11 Posted May 20, 2016 Base iso 64 would be more important than increasing the MP number. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted May 20, 2016 Share #12 Posted May 20, 2016 It is a wrong question. Much better question is what will be the quality of the pixels? DR, base ISO, high ISO noise.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckrider Posted May 20, 2016 Share #13 Posted May 20, 2016 Thanks First time in my life I'm completely happy with the camera I have. ....Life is good.... I like my car too wife? home? Thomas 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 20, 2016 Share #14 Posted May 20, 2016 More than 24mp would demote the SL to a second level camera. Little chance IMHO. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted May 20, 2016 Share #15 Posted May 20, 2016 Zzzzz........ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 20, 2016 Share #16 Posted May 20, 2016 More than 24mp would demote the SL to a second level camera. Little chance IMHO. Assuming that one rates cameras by megapixels... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 20, 2016 Share #17 Posted May 20, 2016 The market does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Almulla Posted May 20, 2016 Share #18 Posted May 20, 2016 I want less ISO noise, I don't care if Leica adds more pixels. DR increase would be nice but I'd still want less noise. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 20, 2016 Share #19 Posted May 20, 2016 The market does. Leica's market? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem331 Posted May 20, 2016 Share #20 Posted May 20, 2016 Personally I am a little distressed by many people in recent threads referring to Leica M as "vintage" "now older technology" etc. In some ways this is good because it will be probably be good for Leica sales, but in other ways it saddens me because it appears to denote a lack of appreciation for a wonderful camera. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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