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Is this lens element separation, fungus or something else?


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Should I be worried about this? Also my lens doesn't seem to focus properly at infinity, probably would need to take it to a professional to get it adjusted.

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It looks somewhat like 'schneidereitis' which sometimes afflicts some Schneider manufactured lenses - basically this is black anti-reflection paint on the edges of the lens coming off. That said it does't look like paint is coming away; more like it might not ever have been fully covered. If this is the case then it might cause very occasional flaring but is unlikely to do anything else of detriment. Fortunately, it doesn't look like fungus at all to me though. If your lens needs adjustment get the repairer/technician to look at it and give a verdict. These sorts of things do crop up on the forum at times and its difficult to be definitive because glass refraction makes it awkward to determine exactly where the marks are - they look as if they are on the optical part of the glass from your photo, but may actually prove to be on the painted edges as I suggested. Actually handling the lens and moving it whilst watching the spots might reveal their position better.

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Hey there Tony,

 

As Paul(PGK) above said, it's hard to see on the image what it exactly is.

 

But if the lens doesn't focus fine at infinity (on what camera I'd like to ask) i'd say it's time to have the lens CLA'ed (Cleaned Lubricated Adjusted).

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Agree with Paul - likely to be paint degradation on the edges of the lens element and unlikely to cause any image degradation. It's a well known anomaly with older Schneider lenses but the Summilux R is not made by Schneider - I have a 21mm Super Angulon R with a more noticeable edge speckling but it has no effect at all on the image.

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/237734-lets-discuss-the-super-angulon/?p=2716289

 

Regarding not focusing at infinity - are you using an R camera or a non-R with an R lens adapter? If the latter, the adapter could be the culprit. - especially if of 'eastern origin'.

 

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I would agree that it looks like paint loss from the edge of the lens element. I have a few older lenses which show the same symptoms (including Leica) but it doesn't affect performance at all. 

 

Regarding infinity focussing, which camera are you using? What are you focussing on and at what aperture? Any examples to share?

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I was using a Leica R6.2, and I haven't developed the film so I don't have any samples unfortunately. I was just looking through the viewfinder and noticed it never really quite reached infinity.

 

I then used it on my digital video camera (a Red Epic Dragon), with a Leica R mount attached, and it focused past infinity. Very strange.

 

Then something weirder happened, I was using it on a job (with the Red) and the focus cam came apart from the rest of the lens. I've since sent it to Steve's Camera in Culver City. Looks like they'll have to do a complete reassembly. 

 

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Hi I dont think it looks like lens separation, more like paint loss at lens margin. Also the lens construction doesnt really have any coupled elements on the front group making tha impossible I think. See http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/Leitz_Summilux-R_50mm_1,4/00_pag.htm for a diagram

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Brandon

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