philipus Posted March 7, 2016 Share #41 Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello everybody, I posted my thoughts on the non-linear vs linear scans in a separate thread post. I'm very interested to hear your thoughts. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257783-slide-film-using-colorperfectlinear-scans-vs-non-linear-tiff/ br Philip Edited March 7, 2016 by philipus 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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A miller Posted March 7, 2016 Share #42 Posted March 7, 2016 Philip - what do the terms "linear" and "non-linear" mean? Sorry for being dense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted March 7, 2016 Share #43 Posted March 7, 2016 Not at all Adam, sorry I probably should have explained that better. ColorPerfect requires using linear scans, which (as I have understood it) have a gamma of 1.0 (which explains why they usually look very dark out of the scanner). This is achieved in Vuescan by ticking RAW on the Output tab (it will still result in a TIFF file even though TIFF isn't ticked). If TIFF is instead ticked (RAW left unticked), Vuescan will apply a gamma curve (probably 2.2) to the scan. This is as technical as I can get on the subject, unfortunately. A non-linear file opened in CP will look very poor. Philip - what do the terms "linear" and "non-linear" mean? Sorry for being dense. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share #44 Posted March 10, 2016 Has anyone found any one color film particularly better at handling stage lighting vs others, specifically red? I suppose a cooling filter is possible, but I am wondering whether there is a better base film to start with........now that all print films in the market are daylight balanced (as far as I know) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 38 Posted March 12, 2016 Share #45 Posted March 12, 2016 At the moment I have found two Agfa films : CT Precisa 100 for slides and Vista plus (200 ASA) for colour prints. So far I have not done any experimenting with them , nor put them through a scanner so can not comment on scanning. The CT Precisa slide film I have found to be very good with bright and sharp . The only possible downside is it may require more careful exposure than say the Fuji Provia which I like a lot. The Agfa Precisa is a lot cheaper at about £5 per roll in the UK . I do miss Kodachrome 64 . That was wonderful and still is. The Vista plus gives good prints . I have used mainly in 'social occasions ' and functions. Works well with flash. Occasionally you can get a 24exp roll for £1 . I used to use Kodak print films , Ektar , Gold and VR . I tended to stick with Kodak throughout when I did my printing as I found it easier to get the colours right . As mentioned it is a personal thing which film you like . I once tried two rolls of Fuji Velvia 50 ( I think ) and did not like it , though others love it. Get out and about , experiment and enjoy. Some great pictures above, thanks for sharing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share #46 Posted March 12, 2016 Thanks Hugh ..... Agfa is sold in the US (B&H in NYC to be more exact, probably other places as well). Tried Agfa 45 years ago, didn't care for it, but I and formulas have changed since. Do you have a photo you can share here? Either deliver you something akin to Kodachrome 64? (my old go to film) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 38 Posted March 13, 2016 Share #47 Posted March 13, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I should add the modern Agfa is way different to the old Agfa of 30 years ago . I fond the old Agfa to be dull and muted , perhaps a bit brown . The modern Agfa I have found to be bright , sharp with good colours. i will see if I can fire up the scanner and get it to work . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobitybob Posted March 13, 2016 Share #48 Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) Thanks Hugh ..... Agfa is sold in the US (B&H in NYC to be more exact, probably other places as well). Tried Agfa 45 years ago, didn't care for it, but I and formulas have changed since. Do you have a photo you can share here? Either deliver you something akin to Kodachrome 64? (my old go to film) Here in the UK, this film (Agfa Vista Plus 200) is sold in a £1 discount store called Poundland and even has its own Flickr group if you are looking for examples https://www.flickr.com/groups/2165089@N24/ Hope that's helpful. Edited March 13, 2016 by Bobitybob 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted March 24, 2016 Share #49 Posted March 24, 2016 All Pro films from Fuji Pro 160 NS, Pro 400H are professional films which you should keep in the fridge just before use to have the balanced colors. Fuji Superia films is an amateur line films. They are pretty good but not exactly balanced in color like their Pro line. Especially in portrait work you can see the difference. If you're printing in RA-4 the difference is more clear: With Pro 400H I can do the whole color correction on my enlarger in the same way of almost the whole film role. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share #50 Posted March 24, 2016 Thanks ..... I just got in the mail the Rollei CN200 , no orange mask ..... internet views have been mixed. Going to give it a try and see what happens ... part of the fun! Also, I want to get it developed and back before I shoot the Easter Parade in NYC on Sunday . . . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted March 25, 2016 Share #51 Posted March 25, 2016 This Rollei Digibase CN200 pro C-41 film without Orange mask you can scan as color film and if you want you can print it in a the classical way with grade 3-4 on MG B&W photo paper. http://gallery.fotohuisrovo.nl/thumbnails.php?album=6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted March 26, 2016 Share #52 Posted March 26, 2016 For Steve , interesting link for you http://curatingcuteness.com/2013/05/35mm-film-guide/ Best Henry 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share #53 Posted March 28, 2016 For Steve , interesting link for you http://curatingcuteness.com/2013/05/35mm-film-guide/ Best Henry Thanks Henry ..... To all that drop by this thread -- I am heading out to Bryce and Zion and and Grand Canyon National Parks this summer for vacation. Naturally the cameras (Q, MA, M4) will be with me. Any thoughts on film? the choice seems to come down to Ektar vs Velvia 50 vs provia 100f. Any others? My bias is against slide film if only because of the limited DR ...... Thoughts? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted March 28, 2016 Share #54 Posted March 28, 2016 Good choices. I would pack the velvia 50 in one camera and ektar in the other, and use the velvia in those cases in which the range of exposure values is 4 or less (there are plenty of these situations) and ektar for everything else The only other color film stock for your trip that i might consider is the cinestill 50, for that classic golden look. But it would be occassional use. I would also suggest bringing some tri-x and maybe some ilford delta 100 (and medium yellow filter) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share #55 Posted March 28, 2016 Good choices. I would pack the velvia 50 in one camera and ektar in the other, and use the velvia in those cases in which the range of exposure values is 4 or less (there are plenty of these situations) and ektar for everything else The only other color film stock for your trip that i might consider is the cinestill 50, for that classic golden look. But it would be occassional use. I would also suggest bringing some tri-x and maybe some ilford delta 100 (and medium yellow filter) Thanks Adam -- On the B&W I am debating whether to bring, but if I do, I have found Ilford FP4+ is really best for landscape photography. I was reading on one site to bring a warming filter for dawn shots at Bryce because of the atmosphere, it can make the shots very blue. Since i have 36exp per roll and am presuming the light changes as the day wears on, I am thinking Ektar will be the film of choice. Nighttime I have my Q, no need for fast film to take night skies! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted March 28, 2016 Share #56 Posted March 28, 2016 Thanks Adam -- On the B&W I am debating whether to bring, but if I do, I have found Ilford FP4+ is really best for landscape photography. I was reading on one site to bring a warming filter for dawn shots at Bryce because of the atmosphere, it can make the shots very blue. Since i have 36exp per roll and am presuming the light changes as the day wears on, I am thinking Ektar will be the film of choice. Nighttime I have my Q, no need for fast film to take night skies! I think you would be very well served to bring along a light and compact tripod. This way you can take the long exposures on film, which is really where the action is. Ektar has serious reciprocity failure but there are apps that tell you the exact compensation adjustments (basically, it starts at 2 secs in which you need 3 secs, and 6 secs instead of 4 and 15 secs instead of 8 and 29 secs instead of 15, and so on). But as long as you get this right you really don't get off putting color casts like you do with velvia 50, which will introduce serious magenta after about 2 seconds. As long as you give Ektar a little bit more of a generous exposure time you'll get great colors, and any coolness with contain really lovely blues. If you do bring a warming filter, I don't think you need any more than an 81B (not 85 which is too strong); even an 81A would probably sufficie. You don't want to overdo this as it will queer your color palette!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share #57 Posted March 28, 2016 81A is what was suggested, and I think the one I already have Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted March 28, 2016 Share #58 Posted March 28, 2016 yes, that should do it, and I don't think it even requires any exposure compensation (81B requires +1/3) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share #59 Posted March 28, 2016 trip isn't until July, plenty of time to experiment with Ektar, shooting at ISO 80, which essentially means sunny 16 at 1/64 rather than 1/125 unless I go to half stops on aperture...... like 1/125 and f/11.5? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted March 28, 2016 Share #60 Posted March 28, 2016 Steve, For your inspiration again , this link for b&w : http://emulsive.org/interviews/i-am-andrew-sanderson-and-this-is-why-i-shoot-film Regards Henry 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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