honcho Posted March 3, 2016 Share #21 Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) ......Fundamentally, for me, an image is not finished until I have post-processed it and I have difficulty relating to the view that an image should be considered final out of the scanner. In other words, the importance of using a particular film to obtain a certain look out of the camera doesn't really register with me. Naturally, I fully accept that other photographers may have other views. For instance, I spoke with the Swedish photographer Leif-Erik Nygårds not long ago. He told me that when Bert Stern (whom he worked for at one point) heard that Kodak was dropping Kodachrome in 8x10 he bought enormous quantities of it because he was so attached to the particular look of that film (and, apparently - in what must have been a coincidence (if this is at all true) - just days after Kodak announced that it wouldn't develop this version of the film any longer Stern died; he had a very large 8x10 stock left at that time apparently). The scanning and post-processing processes are very important to the look of the final image (obviously; and apologies for going off-topic here)..... philip You haven't gone off topic from my point of view, I agree with this. Velvia 50 high quality scans (the absolute key) are very versatile, in particular black and white conversions from medium format through any half decent application such as Tonality Pro, SFXP2 or Alien Skin have a richness and range of tones that I still prefer to conversions from full frame 35mm digtital. Edited March 3, 2016 by honcho 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Henry Posted March 3, 2016 Share #22 Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) Steve, For the choice of color film, as I love the macrophoto and the nature, the simplest thingit is to photograph flowers or other natural subjects we usually watch and print on paperThe choice will be made regardless of film prize One or two of best film brands Kodak or Fuji Best Henry Edited March 3, 2016 by Doc Henry Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share #23 Posted March 3, 2016 Is there a Fuji transparency that works for urban landscapes, which obviously is a mix of buildings, people, and sharp man-made contrasts between sun and shadow? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted March 3, 2016 Share #24 Posted March 3, 2016 Velvia 100. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257569-color-film-choice/?do=findComment&comment=3001114'>More sharing options...
philipus Posted March 3, 2016 Share #25 Posted March 3, 2016 Well I certainly don't want to monopolise the thread and apologise for all these photos (and I do look forward to other members' thoughts as well). Personally I would say Velvia 100 and the 100F work well (though, as I write that, I am not sure they're still being sold; I have a bunch of old stock in my freezer). I am not sure these match precisely what you are asking for, Steve, but they are at least a few examples of situations with very different light (most have been post-processed to a greater or lesser degree and some are of course known from the I love film thread). I should add that most if not all of these were scanned as linear tiff and "developed" in ColorPerfect so they would look differently (and in my view better) if I were to rescan them today with my updated workflow. 100F Flickr Flickr 100 Flickr Flickr Flickr Flickr But Provia 100 and 400X are also good, I find. Two examples (there are a few 400X at box speed in the I love film thread): 100 Flickr 400X at EI1600 Flickr 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share #26 Posted March 4, 2016 Not Monopolizing at all. This is about sharing views and demonstrating them. As I wrote the right and wrong is what's and wrong for the individual photographer. Love the provia and so much for it falling apart when pushed! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted March 4, 2016 Share #27 Posted March 4, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Steve, For the choice of color film, as I love the macrophoto and the nature, the simplest thing it is to photograph flowers or other natural subjects we usually watch and print on paper The choice will be made regardless of film prize One or two of best film brands Kodak or Fuji Best Henry Some examples as seen in nature and in macro, it's even better in definition, texture Softness and naturalness Tulip Fuji Superia 100 90 MacroElmar Leica M7 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Rose Kodak Portra 160 ApoTelyt 135 Asph Leica M7 Regards Henry 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Rose Kodak Portra 160 ApoTelyt 135 Asph Leica M7 Regards Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257569-color-film-choice/?do=findComment&comment=3001239'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted March 4, 2016 Share #28 Posted March 4, 2016 Yellow and red in wheat field with subtle green Kodak Portra 160 Leica M7 50 Summilux Asph Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257569-color-film-choice/?do=findComment&comment=3001245'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted March 4, 2016 Share #29 Posted March 4, 2016 ... with landscape we have these colors High definition and contrast color of pasture, wooden chalets ,fir trees , rock Kodak Portra 400 Leica M7 50 Summilux Asph Haute Savoie (France) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257569-color-film-choice/?do=findComment&comment=3001250'>More sharing options...
plasticman Posted March 4, 2016 Share #30 Posted March 4, 2016 The scanning and post-processing processes are very important to the look of the final image (obviously; and apologies for going off-topic here). Personally I've had to experiment a bit to find a preferred workflow for b&w, c41 and e6. Especially for slides (but increasingly more for colour neg) I am abandoning ColorPerfect (except for simply inverting a colour negative image and getting rid of the orange mask). Scanning slide film as normal (non-linear) tiffs and adjusting them in ACR or Photoshop gives vastly better results than making linear scans to be "developed" in ColorPerfect. With slides it's obviously easy to see this by comparing with how the image looks on the light table. In particular the highlights will look better but I also see more shadow details (even without increasing the number of samples on the Coolscan 9000). philip To avoid going off-topic or hijacking this thread, I'd love to see a new thread with a description of your revised workflow (if and when you have the time). 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted March 4, 2016 Share #31 Posted March 4, 2016 Absolutely, I can do that. Would be interesting to hear people's views and experiences too. To avoid going off-topic or hijacking this thread, I'd love to see a new thread with a description of your revised workflow (if and when you have the time). 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted March 5, 2016 Share #32 Posted March 5, 2016 To avoid going off-topic or hijacking this thread, I'd love to see a new thread with a description of your revised workflow (if and when you have the time). Add me as a rabid requester for this. I'm on the edge of stepping back into developing, and adding a scanner (the only thing holding me back is I'm in the process of relocating to another Country), and avidly digest all offerings on film > digital file workflow. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share #33 Posted March 5, 2016 You can keep it in this thread since it does inform choice of color film. After all we made choices before as to whether end use needed slides or prints etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted March 6, 2016 Share #34 Posted March 6, 2016 Yellow and red in wheat field with subtle green Kodak Portra 160 Leica M7 50 Summilux Asph Image22coqkp160rllfht++++900.jpg Best Henry The more times I come back to this shot, the more I like it, Henry. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted March 6, 2016 Share #35 Posted March 6, 2016 You can keep it in this thread since it does inform choice of color film. After all we made choices before as to whether end use needed slides or prints etc It might be more easily discoverable in the future if it gets a new thread and a searchable title referring specifically to color workflows - but I leave it up to you guys. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted March 6, 2016 Share #36 Posted March 6, 2016 Not nasty PlasticMReason: a passion for what you loveStay with us Best Henry 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted March 6, 2016 Share #37 Posted March 6, 2016 Yellow and red in wheat field with subtle green Kodak Portra 160 Leica M7 50 Summilux Asph Image22coqkp160rllfht++++900.jpg Best Henry Love this one Henry. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted March 7, 2016 Share #38 Posted March 7, 2016 The cheapest C-41 film so far: Superia 100: Eur. 0,40ct 135-24. OK I had to buy 512 films at Fuji Tilburg for a rest stock. Their best C-41 film: pro 400H. The color balance of this film is perfect! If you want a C-41 film without Orange mask and printable for B&W too: Rollei Digibase CN200, made by Agfa Gevaert. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share #39 Posted March 7, 2016 The cheapest C-41 film so far: Superia 100: Eur. 0,40ct 135-24. OK I had to buy 512 films at Fuji Tilburg for a rest stock. Their best C-41 film: pro 400H. The color balance of this film is perfect! If you want a C-41 film without Orange mask and printable for B&W too: Rollei Digibase CN200, made by Agfa Gevaert. A little confused though (comes with the age), you are saying surperia 100 is the cheapest but pro400H has best color balance (fuji brands or all color?) -- the Rollei Digibase CN200 is worthy because it has no orange mask? How is color balance, etc, the metrics by which you measure pro400H? Thanks in advance for your answer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted March 7, 2016 Share #40 Posted March 7, 2016 The more times I come back to this shot, the more I like it, Henry. Love this one Henry. Thank you Eoin and Chris Best Henry Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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