jmui852 Posted February 10, 2016 Share #1 Posted February 10, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just wondering what is the difference between the German version and the Canadian Version. From what I read the German version is nicer in colour while the Canadian version looks nicer in black and white? How true is this? To what extent? What about the price value of these 2 lenses? Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Hi jmui852, Take a look here Leica 35mm Summicron V1 8 Element Germany vs Canada. What's the Difference?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
NB23 Posted February 10, 2016 Share #2 Posted February 10, 2016 The Leica myth is infinite. What about Sepia? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted February 10, 2016 Share #3 Posted February 10, 2016 country of origin is sole difference. Someone might be comparing V1 & 2. Also who knows what may have been done to these in 50 years. One may have fog inside and if the case is slight, a contrast boost can partially help. No fix in color except cleaning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted February 11, 2016 Share #4 Posted February 11, 2016 IIRC, the earlier part of its production life was made in Germany and moved to Canada for the remainder of its lifespan. Same exact design. Probably improved coatings later in the run. I have v.1/Germany and it rocks on the MM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmui852 Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share #5 Posted February 11, 2016 Any truth to the Canadian version being softer and more suitable for b+w, while the German version is sharper and has more vibrant colours? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted February 11, 2016 Share #6 Posted February 11, 2016 Probably more performance variation between individual samples than between locations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted February 11, 2016 Share #7 Posted February 11, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello Tom, I think the same thing holds for stuffed cabbage. Best Regards, Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted February 11, 2016 Share #8 Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) There are factors that nobody want to speak of. For example, the Canadian air is very fresh, clean, which is good for assembly, and the workers do not drink during lunch time, while Germans may. So that air is trapped between the lens elements, and who can believe that a mildly intoxicated worker won't make assembly mistakes? OTOH, a little alcohol diminishes hand tremors so perhaps the German lens centerings are better! Further, the German language is guttural with more of a tendency to spit while talking. Are we to believe the Germans do not speak while assembling lenses? Only DNA tests will prove either. Gawd, isn't this thread stretched out enough already? I just had to add the insane. Can anyone one-up the silliness? Bottom line - I do not believe there is a rational human being alive who can tell the difference between country of origin based upon image results. After all, they were all made to Leica's outstanding standards. Edited February 11, 2016 by pico 8 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted February 11, 2016 Share #9 Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) There are factors that nobody want to speak of. For example, the Canadian air is very fresh, clean, which is good for assembly, and the workers do not drink during lunch time, while Germans may. So that air is trapped between the lens elements, and who can believe that a mildly intoxicated worker won't make assembly mistakes? OTOH, a little alcohol diminishes hand tremors so perhaps the German lens centerings are better! Further, the German language is guttural with more of a tendency to spit while talking. Are we to believe the Germans do not speak while assembling lenses? Only DNA tests will prove either. But then again, Leica moved to Canada because of Cold War fears of a Soviet invasion so the Canadian staff were much calmer when assembling equipment, as opposed to the nervous nellies of Wetzlar, who were, as the crow flies, a mere 125 km from the Fulda Gap. I think though 'pico' is on to something with the trapped fresh Canadian air between the elements. Must improve its bokeh or bouquet or something. Edited February 12, 2016 by james.liam 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted February 12, 2016 Share #10 Posted February 12, 2016 6,245 miles. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted February 12, 2016 Share #11 Posted February 12, 2016 And Elcan is still in business. It's just owned by Mericans now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladik Posted February 12, 2016 Share #12 Posted February 12, 2016 Any truth to the Canadian version being softer and more suitable for b+w, while the German version is sharper and has more vibrant colours? You are spot on, but fairies at the bottom of the garden are 50:50 on this one, as somebody else said Leica myth continues. LOL. I have to admit being little bit of a snob when it concerns Leica lenses and a European personally I would go for German made lens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted February 12, 2016 Share #13 Posted February 12, 2016 if it is softer- the german version must be unbelievably sharp- as my Canadian lens is RAZOR sharp AS IS even wide open: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/256716-leica-35mm-summicron-v1-8-element-germany-vs-canada-whats-the-difference/?do=findComment&comment=2987792'>More sharing options...
james.liam Posted February 12, 2016 Share #14 Posted February 12, 2016 if it is softer- the german version must be unbelievably sharp- as my Canadian lens is RAZOR sharp AS IS even wide open: My German version would not only have resolved as well but additionally revealed what that cat was thinking. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Michel Posted February 12, 2016 Share #15 Posted February 12, 2016 My Canadian version, circa 1962, is so sharp it needs goggles to prevent eye injury 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted February 13, 2016 Share #16 Posted February 13, 2016 My German version would not only have resolved as well but additionally revealed what that cat was thinking. a'ha- but my Canadian lens actually captured what the cat was thinking- it was an eyewitness! Can't you see? Smudge was thinking "There's a bird! I'd love to kill it! But can I?" All in a flash. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted February 13, 2016 Share #17 Posted February 13, 2016 Hello Jim, as per your Post #10, this Thread; Is that due East/West or over which Pole?Best Regards, Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted February 14, 2016 Share #18 Posted February 14, 2016 Hello Jim, as per your Post #10, this Thread; Is that due East/West or over which Pole? Best Regards, Michael I think it is as the albatross flies. Straight across. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayek Posted February 14, 2016 Share #19 Posted February 14, 2016 6,245 miles. 6,245 Kilometres. As the crow flies Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramosa Posted February 18, 2016 Share #20 Posted February 18, 2016 The main difference I would think would be price. Even though it makes little sense, I have always opted for German versions of the Canadian counterparts (even though I'm quite fond of Canada). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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