Pecole Posted February 3, 2016 Share #1 Posted February 3, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Better late than never : here is the second part of the proposed "Leica IIIc variations". And there will be a third and last part, since attachments volume limitations do not allow enclosing all selected photos. I propose to close the "wartime-first model" part with the three first photos : - a "normal" IIIc nº 375514 with red blind - a gray IIIc with a VIOOH viewfinder engraved "W.haven" and the nazi eagle, and the special ESFUS leather case - and the VIOOH engraving in detail. Coming to the post-war, second model, I do not believe useful to describe, illustrate or comment current samples. I will limit myself to detail the rarest of all the Leica IIIc in my Fontenelle Collection : the black paint nº 509174. When it joined my collection, coming in a completely fitted ETGUS case for camera and five lenses, I rushed to Brussels Leica representative to ask for genuineness. The only answer I got (after 4 weeks) was : "This camera was delivered on special order". Unfortunately, the body, in relatively good condition, had been added - certainly not professionally - a small flash contact on the right front. The ETGUS case included, next Elmar 35, 50 and 90 mm (this last in black finish), a Summitar and a black Hektor 135, three corresponding hoods (FOOKH, FIKUS and SOOPD), a VIOOH viewfinder, four each filters slip-on A36 and screw-in Summitar and three film cassettes in alu containers. Photos will speak for themselves. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/256431-leica-iiic-variations-2/?do=findComment&comment=2982192'>More sharing options...
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sumolux Posted February 3, 2016 Share #2 Posted February 3, 2016 Pecole, OMG....I am surprised you did not die from a heart attack after that last find.....! A box of dreams... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambro51 Posted February 3, 2016 Share #3 Posted February 3, 2016 Have you been able to quantify the survival rates for various Pre war Leica camera models? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecole Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share #4 Posted February 3, 2016 Have you been able to quantify the survival rates for various Pre war Leica camera models? When you write "Pre war", Ambro51, do you mean "wartime"? If so, No, I don't know...and never tried to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecole Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share #5 Posted February 3, 2016 Pecole, OMG....I am surprised you did not die from a heart attack after that last find.....! A box of dreams... Well, if you read my answer to J.C. Braconi under "IIIc variations - 1", you will know that I effectively had a heart attack. But let's be serious : it had nothing to do with my "dream box". Thanks for your interest and enthusiasm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumolux Posted February 4, 2016 Share #6 Posted February 4, 2016 Hi Pecole, Oh, my apolgies for putting my foot in my mouth, I missed that response where your situation came up, just read it now... No harm intended! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lleo Posted February 4, 2016 Share #7 Posted February 4, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Mate, the ESFUS case is horrible but if one thinks it contains the camera with the VIOOH mounted, is great. I think I'll have to get one sooner or later Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecole Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share #8 Posted February 5, 2016 Mate, the ESFUS case is horrible but if one thinks it contains the camera with the VIOOH mounted, is great. I think I'll have to get one sooner or later Since you seem to love the ESFUS, Ileo, here is one more photo. And good luck in your quest for one (not too easy to find, as I remember) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/256431-leica-iiic-variations-2/?do=findComment&comment=2983360'>More sharing options...
lleo Posted February 5, 2016 Share #9 Posted February 5, 2016 Thanks mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Madureira Posted February 5, 2016 Share #10 Posted February 5, 2016 Here is mine EFUS, and also another one with same similarities, (does anibody know it´s code name?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Madureira Posted February 5, 2016 Share #11 Posted February 5, 2016 Here is mine EFUS, and also another one with some similarities, (does anibody know it´s code name?) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/256431-leica-iiic-variations-2/?do=findComment&comment=2983843'>More sharing options...
Pecole Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share #12 Posted February 6, 2016 Your second case is most probably an EQBOO (1949) for Leica Ic with FOKOS rangefinder and Summitar lens (or maybe the ESOOG, same but with Elmar lens?). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted February 6, 2016 Share #13 Posted February 6, 2016 Have you check if there is a clip inside the top ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Madureira Posted February 7, 2016 Share #14 Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Have you check if there is a clip inside the top ? I have check now and there is no clip inside the top, there is a visible circular mark that I guess it is from a FOKOS, but no clip. Edited February 7, 2016 by Antonio Madureira Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Madureira Posted February 7, 2016 Share #15 Posted February 7, 2016 Good day everybody! Two questions to, (for instance) the titans: 1 - Where can I get a codeword index for Leica cases, EQBOO, ESOOG, etc, as it is not present in Hove Collectors Books, and masters, vg. Lager, Laney ad. alt. do not offer that information. 2 - I have a strange case for sm camera, not bm camera because there is no transparency for the rear display (ISO ASA), but IS the classic interior pocket for notes, is wider than usual and the body fixing screw is a clearly excêntric. What kind of case is it? I can show some photos for comparison. Thank you very much. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/256431-leica-iiic-variations-2/?do=findComment&comment=2984919'>More sharing options...
Pecole Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share #16 Posted February 8, 2016 Good day everybody! Two questions to, (for instance) the titans: 1 - Where can I get a codeword index for Leica cases, EQBOO, ESOOG, etc, as it is not present in Hove Collectors Books, and masters, vg. Lager, Laney ad. alt. do not offer that information. 2 - I have a strange case for sm camera, not bm camera because there is no transparency for the rear display (ISO ASA), but IS the classic interior pocket for notes, is wider than usual and the body fixing screw is a clearly excêntric. What kind of case is it? I can show some photos for comparison. Thank you very much. First, Antonio, at least Dennis Laney is providing full information on all kinds of cases. Second, at first sight, your case is an EFOOS for Leica Ig with FOKOS rangefinder attached. It looks too high to be the ENOOR for IIIg and collapsible lens and too low and especially with too flat "nose" to be an EDFOO for IIIg with Leicameter attached. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Madureira Posted February 8, 2016 Share #17 Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) First, Antonio, at least Dennis Laney is providing full information on all kinds of cases. Second, at first sight, your case is an EFOOS for Leica Ig with FOKOS rangefinder attached. It looks too high to be the ENOOR for IIIg and collapsible lens and too low and especially with too flat "nose" to be an EDFOO for IIIg with Leicameter attached. 1 - Shame on me! I behave like any lazy student that, instead of studying the books, ask unnecessary questions. 2 - I think your first sight is very accurate, EFOOS looks the correct guess, but unfortunately, as I do not have Ig in my collection, so I can´t try. Edited February 8, 2016 by Antonio Madureira Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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